Text 6638, 86 rader
Skriven 2007-09-27 18:56:51 av Russell Tiedt (5:7105/1)
   Kommentar till text 6630 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
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Hello Ward.

27 Sep 07 08:52, you wrote to me:

 RT>> A person can carry a 40-60kg nuclear device easily as well ...

 WD> I am not certain that you fully understand what you are talking about.

Hmmm ...

 WD> When in the military training with the artillery, we were instructed
 WD> into the use of nuclear shells. Theoretical use of course. We were
 WD> also trained in the use of nuclear mines. Theoretical use of course.
 WD> Tactical nuclear devices.

Yes ...

 WD> You just don't strap it onto the back of someone and give them a
 WD> button to push to detonate ... it's a bit more complicated than that.

 WD> Then I also invite you to for example put 40-60kg of bricks in
 WD> shrinkwrap together and stuff it in your back pack to see how far you
 WD> will be able to carry it.

When I was considerably younger, we where expected to do 60km, sunrise to 
sunset, 35kg load including 5L water, 15 minute break every three hours ... , 
it is doable, definitely not fun, oh, and before I forget a FN 7.62mm rifle, 
and 2 fully loaded spare magazines, a Barretta 92 pistol with 2 full spare 
magazines, was not included in "pack" weight. Only weight you where allowed to 
dispose of was the water ...

Besides, it is only in the military, that you are required to carry everything 
on your back, civilians are accustomed to using all sorts of weird and 
wonderfull trolley type devices to carry their luggage.

 WD> I would also like to invite you to think about the ways of obtaining
 WD> weapons-grade fission-material, get it transported, get it assembled
 WD> in a way for it to be used, get a detonator, get sufficient batteries,
 WD> etc, etc ... without getting noticed and setting-off sensors all over
 WD> the place.

Weapons grade fissionable material is not required, and can be gotten various 
places, either traded or stolen, trading is marginally preferred to stealing 
... , there is reportedly a few hundred kilograms of "unaccounted" weapons 
grade material floating around somewhere ... , anyhow, more than enough to 
make a respectable device ... , if you can locate it ... , low yield 
enrichment is also possible ...

 WD> You will not be able to carry that for 100m without raising suspicion.

You'd be suprised ... , I made a delivery of just over 140kg to-day, and no 
one lifted an eyelid, to a medium security installation - content - food ... , 
and I had to move that almost 300 meters ... , they are more worried about my 
vehicle, than what I carry into the installation ... :-((

 WD> Then of course Bob Bashe will start a diatribe about dirty nuclear
 WD> arms in which he will be right of course, but that's only a local
 WD> contamination, not the 300,000 that Michiel spoke of and about which
 WD> he is right as well.

Terrorists are only concerned with local contamination, ... i.e. the target 
... , they don't even need more - really ...

 WD> Terrorists are not out for wholesale destruction but for achieving
 WD> their aims by creating "terror" through minimal damage. The
 WD> suicide-terrorist fits the description.

So Michiel's 300,000 is not relavant ...

 WD> Then someone will start about biological warfare and after that it's
 WD> just cut-and-paste from discussion-37 which we've had already a dozen
 WD> times or more here.

Hmmm ... , kg for kg, probably much more effective, makes for smaller, more 
lethal payloads ... :-) , and you don't make the target un-livable for many 
generations later, either, especially in built up heavily populated areas ... 
, that is, if being able to use the target area after the attack is an issue 
...

And as the discussion 37 probably shows, an endless debate is possible ... , 
you can go far with fanatism, money, and a modicum of intelligence ...

Russell

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