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Skriven 2007-09-28 10:20:33 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
   Kommentar till text 6629 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
Ärende: Euro vs Dollar
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27 Sep 07 08:36, Ward Dossche wrote to Ross Cassell:

 RC>> Which French built Jets do you think can go toe to toe with the F16,
 RC>> 15 or 18?

 WD> I have no idea what's on the market nor what the capabilities are.

 WD> Years ago Belgium bought French Mirages. Nice planes. Twin-engined,
 WD> unlike the F16 which with its single engine has a relatively high
 WD> crash-rate compared to other types.

Of course, you do realize that those F-16s are manufactured in Europe,
using Eurapeon manufactured parts. The Belgium and Dutch F-16s are not the
same as those manufactured in the USA. BTW, that single engine will
out-perform the French Mirage in every category.

 WD> Eventually it appeared that they were a stripped-down version of what
 WD> the French were using ... so a Belgian Mirage opposed to a French
 WD> Mirage would not stand a chance.

I thought you said you didn't know what was on the French market! If that
Mirage is so good, why would the French switch to F-16s? Other than it
being a NATO member, of course.

 WD> So the replacement-type was the F16. Quite a number were lost due to
 WD> engine stalls BTW.

Those were due to the inferior Eurapeon engines.

 WD> Nice planes, pilots loved them ... Then the war in the Balkan erupted
 WD> and Belgium volunteered a bunch of its F16s for different tasks. Then
 WD> General Dynamics said "We wouldn't do that if we were you" because it
 WD> appeared we had bought a stripped-down version of the F16.

Ummmm, no, you built a stripped down version. Had you bought any, they
would be of USA origin with a great engine.

 WD>  A Belgian F16 opposed to an American F16 would stand no chance.

Now you're getting somewhere.

 WD> So the only role they could play was a high-level tactical bomber. So
 WD> when Belgium volunteered its F16s in Gulf War 1 they were told
 WD> "Haven't you got anything else?"

No, they were asked; Haven't you built your F-16s from the specs we gave
you?

 WD> Perhaps the next purchase to replace the F16s could be Sukhois. ;-)
 WD> I've seen them do pretty neat things which neither the F16, the F15,
 WD> the F18 nor the F22 can do and that is aknowledged by American
 WD> pilots.

Sure it is...not!

 WD> As for "Made in Europe" stuff there's the "Tornado" but I don't know
 WD> its capabilities either, mostly fighter-bomber I think.

So you think that the F-16s built in Belgium and the Nederlands are not
built there?

 WD>  I hear encouraging words about the "Eurofighter" as well which
 WD> probably will be put in service by most air forces here I expect.

According to NATO agreements, they won't.

 WD> Perhaps we will buy Iranian planes. If they're really that good as
 WD> their Prez pretends ... they will be betrayed however by their garlic
 WD> smell ...;-)

Those are just more copies of the F-16, with garlic added to cover the
smell of camel shit.

                R\%/itt


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