Text 8540, 88 rader
Skriven 2007-12-20 11:57:00 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
   Kommentar till text 8507 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: George W. Bush
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Hello David.

20 Dec 07 18:21, you wrote to me:

 DD> Jeff Smith -> David Drummond wrote:

 MV>>>>> We do not need a moderator, we can moderatie ourselves.

 JS>>>>     We can all see just how well that has worked out.

 DD>>> Works fine for me

 JS>>     Now why doesn't that surprise me?

 DD> Then what are you whinging about? Go with the flow.

     Flush.... That's NOT quite the flow I had in mind. <g>

 DD>>> - I have no complaints at all about my behaviour. Do
 DD>>> you object to yours?

 JS>>     THAT is the very reason self-moderating will not work in this
 JS>> particular echo. You have no problem with your behaviour just as
 JS>> many/most others don't have a problem with their behaviour. Put
 JS>> those people together and what do you have? An echo where many
 JS>> will do and say as they please with little or no interest if they
 JS>> disrespect or insult others.

 DD> Those who choose to be insulted can simply hit next if they find
 DD> messages like that. They choose to be insulted, they can choose to
 DD> step past those messages. It is their problem, not the posters.

     Rubbish David. If I insult you and you take it as an insult then
why are you wrong for taking the insult as I intended? It would be like
if I were to rob you and you were blamed for choosing to be the victum.
Indeed people choose how they take comments and statements made to them
and choose to feel insulted. But why blame them for correctly taking a
insult as it was intended? Better solution I would think is for people
to learn not to insult others.


 JS>> We are in a lose-lose situation.Self-moderating isn't working and
 JS>> the moderator doesn't care to moderate. What do we have as a
 JS>> result? An echo where people say whatever they chose because they
 JS>> know nothing will be done about it.

 DD> What is the problem with that? Isn't that what this oft-touted free
 DD> speech is about?

 DD> Why do you think others should conform to your standards? Maybe it is
 DD> you who should be conforming to their standards.

     How about the standards (Rules) specified by the moderator? The
standards that I refer to are not my standards. They are Bjorn's.


 JS>> If someone cares enough to speak up he is critisized by the
 JS>> moderator supporters for one thing or another.

 DD> As others have often mentioned, if you cannot stand the heat, stay out
 DD> of the kitchen. Self expression has been practised in this echo for a
 DD> long time. If you cannot come to grips with that, maybe it is time you
 DD> took your wont for being oppressed to another echo.

    Or it is time for this echo to once again be used for it's specified and
intended purpose. That being the support for and discussion of things related
to the Fidonews. You remember the Fidonews? Instead of the moderator using
this echo as a forum for his personal use.

    Better solution would be for you and those that want such a forum to go
and create one and let this echo get back to being a Fidonews echo. You would
then have a echo that you want and the rest of us would would once again have
the Fidonews echo back.


 DD> --

 DD> regards

 DD> David

 DD> ---
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Jeff

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