Text 8563, 77 rader
Skriven 2007-12-21 10:55:18 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
   Kommentar till text 8539 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
Ärende: George W. Bush
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Hello Jeff.

20 Dec 07 10:56, you wrote to me:

 DD>> to step past those messages. It is their problem, not the
 DD>> posters.

 JS>      Rubbish David. If I insult you and you take it as an insult then
 JS> why are you wrong for taking the insult as I intended?

It is up to the insultee to be insulted. Many choose to be insulted when none
is offered. Even when the insulter has intended it, the insultee can just
ignore it. It just words. Do you remember the rhyme from your childhood "Sticks
and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."? It is still
relevant today. Or is it that your litigeous society has you looking fro wrong
in other people all of the time???

 JS> It would be like if I were to rob you and you were blamed for
 JS> choosing to be the victum.

Robbery is entirely different. No matter how I would look at it, the goods have
still been removed from the rightful owner. Words can be regarded many ways, as
hurtful, or as just hot air.

 JS> Indeed people choose how they take comments and statement
 JS> made to them and choose to feel insulted. But why blame them for
 JS> correctly taking a insult as it was intended? Better solution I would
 JS> think is for people to learn not to insult others.

Or should people learn not to be insulted? Words are just words.

[...]

 DD>> What is the problem with that? Isn't that what this oft-touted
 DD>> free speech is about?

 DD>> Why do you think others should conform to your standards? Maybe
 DD>> it is you who should be conforming to their standards.

 JS>      How about the standards (Rules) specified by the moderator? The
 JS> standards that I refer to are not my standards. They are Bjorn's.

As is the interpretation of those rules. You still seem to be working with your
interpretation even when Bjorn has explained his.

[...]

 DD>> As others have often mentioned, if you cannot stand the heat,
 DD>> stay out of the kitchen. Self expression has been practised in
 DD>> this echo for a long time. If you cannot come to grips with that,
 DD>> maybe it is time you took your wont for being oppressed to
 DD>> another echo.

 JS>     Or it is time for this echo to once again be used for it's
 JS> specified and intended purpose. That being the support for and
 JS> discussion of things related to the Fidonews. You remember the
 JS> Fidonews? Instead of the moderator using this echo as a forum for his
 JS> personal use.

Then lead by example. Stop your bullshit in this echo immediately if you fee
that the echo is not for such.

Even with the non-Fidonews related chatter in here, there is nothing to stop
people discussing Fidonews content (if there was any).

 JS>     Better solution would be for you and those that want such a forum
 JS> to go and create one and let this echo get back to being a Fidonews
 JS> echo. You would then have a echo that you want and the rest of us
 JS> would would once again have the Fidonews echo back.

Except that the Moderator has mandated a certain amount of deviation from just
Fidonews discussion. It's right there in the rules.

David

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