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Skriven 2008-01-04 09:19:01 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
Kommentar till text 9413 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Holloway
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02 Jan 08 14:34, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:
MvdV> Hello Roy,
MvdV> On Monday December 31 2007 18:26, you wrote to me:
MvdV>>> So you say but we have only your word for it and if you
MvdV>>> travelled on a false passport in a false name, there would be
MvdV>>> no record. Not in the name of Roy Witt.
RW>> And if I had, they would have noticed that I'd taken some time off
RW>> at work...they didn't and neither did I.
MvdV> Ould they now? And what if it is not tomorrow, but in ten years
MvdV> tyat he evidence against you truns up? Roy Witt? Who is Roy Witt?
MvdV> He worked here you say? Sorry mate, that was before my time. You
MvdV> may ask the old boss in the old folks home across the street. Be
MvdV> warned that he is has Alzheimer. And that of course is if people
MvdV> *want* to remember you ever worked here...
Unlike Holland, employers here are required to keep such records in
archives for at least that long.
RW>>>> I doubt that there is even a direct connection between San
RW>>>> Antonio, TX and Aruba...
MvdV>>> Natalee Holloway got to Aruba from the US. So can you.
I'd have to go out of my way to get there and that alone would draw
attention to it.
RW>> Natalee Holloway wanted to go to Aruba, I never did, nor do I want
RW>> to go there now...
MvdV> Again: only your word for that..
My diary says otherwise.
MvdV>>> I don't think that if any evidence against you turns up, you
MvdV>>> will be believed on your word.
RW>> But then, the burden of proof isn't upon me, it's upon the accuser.
MvdV> Just as when evidence turns uo against me....
Of course.
RW>> That better be damned good evidence, otherwise I'll own the
RW>> prosecutor who takes the case based on false evidence.
MvdV> Hmmm... that sounds like what Joram van der Sloor is saying now,
What could be called 'false arrest' here. That's why the collected
evidence against a suspect has to be provided to the prosecution before
any arrest is made here.
MvdV>>>>> that night. Whenever that was. Nor do I know where I was on
MvdV>>>>> most other nights in that year.
RW>>>> Then you are more susceptable to investigation than I am...
MvdV>>> On the contrary. You were very quick to come up with an alibi.
RW>> I was merely speculating, just like the prosecuter was doing in the
RW>> Aruba murder case.
MvdV> IOW, you lied.
No, I was relying on Nancy's diary...
MvdV> You do not know where you were that night, you are merely
MvdV> speculating.
See above.
MvdV>>> In itself that is suspicious.
RW>> Speculation is always just what it is, speculation...you said so
RW>> yourself.
MvdV> You are already caught in making one false statement...
You are caught not paying attention.
MvdV>>> Very few people know ofhand what they did or where they were on
MvdV>>> a random date over two years ago. "No idea"is the normal
MvdV>>> reaction of any one not involved.
RW>> OTH, I do because my wife makes it a point to keep a diary.
MvdV> That could have been fabricated after the fact...
It's in there now, which is/was before I MIGHT have been a suspect.
RW>>>> Since you have no alibi, you're now suspect.
MvdV>>> Then so is 99% percent of the world's population.
RW>> Doubtful...most people can state that they've never been to Aruba
RW>> and without making a case out of it, everyone will believe them
RW>> until proven otherwise...no reason to investigate further.
MvdV> Same here. I have never been to Aruba. But that is merely a
MvdV> statement, not an alibi. You asked for my alibi and that means I
MvdV> will have to tell you were I was that night. And it should be
MvdV> verifyable. So that it proves I was not on Aruba.
Actually, if your legal system were that of a free nation, the prosecution
would have to prove you are lying. The burden of proof is on the accuser.
RW>>>> Whiskey barrel then? Do they have such things in Aruba?
MvdV>>> Sure. Why not?
RW>> Whiskey barrels are owned by the distiller here. They have to be
RW>> returned to them when they're empty.
MvdV> People who kill people and put them in barrels tend not to be
MvdV> inhibited by rles like that.
Sure. And then they've given the investigators a clue as to who may have
murdered someone. They have to sign for the whiskey barrel
MvdV>>>>>>> If there ever was a body. For all we know, she may still be
MvdV>>>>>>> alive, not wanting to be found.
RW>>>>>> I doubt
MvdV>>> Right, so you admit that there is reasonable doubt there was a
MvdV>>> crime...
RW>> No, you have to read what I wrote and keep it in context...see
RW>> below.
MvdV> Twist and turn...
So, you say you aren't able to keep up a simple conversation.
MvdV> You doubted that she would do that to her parents, IOW you do not
MvdV> think it completely impossible.
D-O-U-B-T leaves no room for possibility.
MvdV> So you think it is not completetly impossible that she dispapperead
MvdV> to get away from her parents.
There's no proof that she would have wanted to.
MvdV> And so you do not think it completetely impossible that she is
MvdV> still alive. And so you have some doubt that there was a crime.
No doubt that there was a crime. van der Sloot did it.
RW>>>> She certainly didn't deserve the treatment she got in Aruba.
MvdV>>> What treatment?
RW>> Her murder...
MvdV> There is no evidence that a murder took place.
There is no evidence that she ran off and hid from everyone either.
MvdV>>> Everyone went out of their way to solve this. We even send two
MvdV>>> F16's qirh special detection equipment all the way from The
MvdV>>> Netherlands. On the tab of the Dutch tax payer. She got a
MvdV>>> lot more than most other teenagers in the world who disappear.
RW>> How do you know what other missing teenagers get?
MvdV> They don't get F16s flown over to Aruba. Dutch F16 have been
MvdV> deployed to search for missing teenagers before, but only within
MvdV> the country. Never overseas. Why did the US air force no provuide
MvdV> for the F16s. They are much closer and probably have superior
MvdV> euqipmnet to boot..
Because then you would say that the American F-16s and their equipment and
pilots are inferior to yours...
RW>>>>>> he's also a murderer...that just needs to be proven.
MvdV>>>>> Only in your mind,
RW>>>> I'm not alone in that thinking...
MvdV>>> Neither are the people that say the earth is flat. When there
MvdV>>> is one, there is always a follower. Does not mean they are
MvdV>>> right...
RW>> The earth is flat, in some aborginal mind. I'm right about the above
RW>> though.
MvdV> Only in your mind. Joram ban der Sloot is not a murderer.
Right. But Joran van der Sloot is.
MvdV>>> FYI: Joram van der Sloot said in an interview that he would
MvdV>>> have preferred had there been a trial so that his innocence
MvdV>>> could have been laid down in a court ruling.
RW>> Of course he did, AFTER he was released and told that he was not
RW>> under suspicion...
MvdV> Complaing there would be no trial when you are in jail in the
MvdV> prelude for a trial, protesting there wil be no one is premature
MvdV> isn't it?
No...he knew that the prosecutor was hoping to get him to confess when
faced with the same old evidence, because his lawyer had already seen it
and told vd Sloot not to admit to anything. They concocted the 'trial' bs
to make it sound good.
MvdV>>> As it is, he considers going for compensation for unjust
MvdV>>> detention. I think he has a good leg to stand on....
RW>> Good idea, charge the dutch taxpayer twice for his crime.
MvdV> He did no say it would be the Dutch taxpayer he would sue. maybe he
MvdV> meant the Holloway family. The sued him before(and lost) , maybe he
MvdV> is thinking of a countersuit.
Wouldn't do him any good. Aruban and/or Dutch courts have no jusrisdiction
here.
RW>>>> closed minds are also typical of dutchmen...stubborn as a mule.
MvdV>>> Watch it, you may break that mirror.
RW>> Dutch blood does run in my veins.
MvdV> Prove it.
I'm almost as stubborn as you are. You're more stubborn than I, because
your blood hasn't been mixed with; German, English, Polish, Welsh or Black
Foot Native American.
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