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Skriven 2010-12-14 12:48:24 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
  Kommentar till text 13134 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: DHS seizes somain names
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Roy Witt wrote to Robert Bashe on Friday December 10 2010 at 20:02:

RW>>> US citizens working at an embassy are sworn to secrecy. Find the one
RW>>> who has broken that trust and you'll find the one who released the
RW>>> memos to Assange.

RB>> ;-) Now start hunting. Should be easy, with only several thousand
RB>> people to choose from.

RW> 3 million, according to Vlist.

US citizens working at an embassy and sworn to secrecy? Michiel wrote nothing
of the kind.

Better lay off the Jim Beam, Roy - it rots your brain.

RB>> Incidentally, there was a nice report today in Spiegel Online:

RB>> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,733649,00.html

RB>> It describes how a secret weapons delivery to south Sudan from
RB>> Ukraine through Kenia (naturally forbidden by the UN - delivery of
RB>> weapons to crisis areas) came to light after Somali pirates hijacked
RB>> the ship and found out what it carried.

RW> I remember this. It is just one example of the now under USA arrest
RW> Russian who dealt in military weapons sales, world wide. And recently
RW> extradited to the US for trial.

You can hardly "remember" this, as the story only became known through the
WikiLeaks documents.

RB>> The US then threatened Kenia with sanctions if the weapons were
RB>> delivered to south Sudan, the Kenians didn't understand and were
RB>> understandable irritated because

RW> I guess Der Spiegel doesn't get their news from a very good source.

They do, but Fox News understandably doesn't report on things from WikiLeaks
and so you aren't aware of the story.

RW> The weapons in that shipment were sent by the above Russian arms
RW> dealer. Illegally obtained and sold weapons now being offered to an
RW> area that the UN says is against their charter or whatever.

Maybe. However, the source of the weapons was not the point. Their shipment to
Kenia and transshipment to southern Sudan was.

RB>> George Bush - the previous president - had been informed of
RB>> everything and not objected. Now suddenly Obama was threatening
RB>> sanctions.

RW> So they twisted the story to blame it all on the US.

No, they just read the diplomatic cables that told the story.

RB>> All of this information, and more, from the Wikileaks documents.

RW> LOL!

Too bad you don't know what's going on, Roy - but Fox News doesn't report on
things that don't fit the party line.

RB>> Embarrassing, yes - for both the Kenians and the USA. "Life
RB>> threatening" - hardly, except for the south Sudanese.

RW> And all of the unknown UN/EU agents in the area.

Probably more like CIA agents, but if you send arms to critical areas, you take
your chances, don't you?

RB>> This is the kind of thing coming out of these documents. The
RB>> Americans aren't worried about a few insults traded back and forth,
RB>> but about secret deals with dictators and support for or at least
RB>> acceptance of illegal weapons deals. The UN might not like that
RB>> either. _That's_ what the hue and cry is about.

RW> Secret and embarrassing deals are not exclusive to the USA. Most
RW> countries world-wide are also on that list.

They may be mentioned. The cables, however, are from US diplomatic sources.

Cheers, Bob

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