Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33946
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   24159
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   12331/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12852
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4436
FN_SYSOP   41708
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13615
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16075
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22112
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   930
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4786
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   0/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1123
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   3251
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13302
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/341
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2056
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   0/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4289
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   33441
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2065
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6002
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
Möte FIDONEWS_OLD3, 30874 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 14102, 86 rader
Skriven 2011-02-14 15:55:15 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 14089 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Tortillas
=================
12 Feb 11 11:51, Robert Bashe wrote to All Mexican food fans:

 RW>>>> One of my pet peeves is the differences in Mexican food,
 RW>>>> California vs Texas. New Mexican food too, for that matter.

 KW>>> Mexican food seems to alternate across borders between being
 KW>>> traditional, authentic, subtle and flavorful, and hot plates
 KW>>> smothered in refried beans, soggy, tart "spanish" rice, cheddar
 KW>>> cheese and sour cream.

 RB>> My personal peeve is the rise of "flour tortillas", which are about
 RB>> as crappy an imitation of the traditional masa corn flour tortillas
 RB>> as you can find. And taste like oven-dried flour paste.

 RB> And getting back to the subject, I noted this morning at:

Are you still casting that bait?

 RB> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortilla

 RB> "In northern Mexico and much of the United States, "tortillas" mean
 RB> flour tortillas. They are the foundation of Mexican border cooking
 RB> and a relatively recent import. Their popularity was driven by the
 RB> low cost of inferior grades of flour provided to border markets and
 RB> by their ability to keep and ship well.[7]"

 RB> Note "inferior grades of flour". That says everything about "flour
 RB> tortillas.

Actually it doesn't say anything about the quality of the tortilla. It
says a great deal for the reason flour is used instead of corn; Flour is
cheaper to buy than corn meal. Let it be noted that flour tortillas are
pretty much the norm and corn tortillas are not.

When you order TexMex or Mexican food, they always ask you if you want
corn or flour tortillas. My preference is flour, as corn tortillas taste
like crap by comparison. I guess if you like such foods that have corn
tortillas as the basic wrap, you will always prefer corn to flour. However
most people (I asked my fav waitress) prefer and order flour.

In real Mexican restaurants and in at least one of my favorite dishes,
they use both.

Huevos Rancheros; two fried eggs with ranch style sauce which also
includes Mexican rice and Refried beans. Corn tortillas are used in this
dish to insulate the eggs from the plate because the eggs aren't finished
cooking until the ranchero sauce is added. This doesn't apply to TexMex,
unless you specify they be used for that purpose, however most TexMex
ranchero sauce isn't boiling hot.

To clarify, the eggs are semi-cooked (whites are not cooked completely)
and then the (boiling hot) ranchero sauce is ladled on top at assembly
with the corn tortillas on the dish. The hot sauce is used to finish
cooking the top of the egg whites.

To insulate the eggs from a cold dish (or even a warm dish), which I think
is a great use for corn tortillas, they put corn tortillas under each of
the eggs. On the side, they serve two flour tortillas which I use as a dip
for sunny-side-up eggs and then as a scoop to mix eggs, rice and beans.

I never eat the corn tortillas!

I'm probably not alone in that, as in Texas, TexMex doesn't make use of
corn tortillas as described above.

There are plenty of Mexican/TexMex recipes that call for corn tortillas,
but I usually use/ask for flour instead. To me, corn tortillas in
Enchiladas taste horrible and I always ask for flour. I also prefer a soft
flour tortilla used to make tacos, rather than the hard shell corn
tortilla.

                R\%/itt

PS - there is one restaurant in town that makes their tortillas too thick,
flour or corn. Adding too much ingredient to something always makes for a
bad tasting dish. Hand made tortillas are a thing of the past too. Every
Mexican restaurant has a tortilla press and some know how to use it and
others don't (the too thick tortilla as an example). As with most of us,
Mexicans are always looking for a way to get out of work and their use of
the tortilla press is no exception.


  Fox News was not used as a source for information in this message!

--- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000-10
 * Origin: SATX Alamo Area Net * South * Texas, USA * (1:387/22)