Text 15934, 60 rader
Skriven 2011-03-29 21:39:41 av David Drummond (3:640/384)
  Kommentar till text 15920 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Them damn French Warmongers
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On 29/03/11 2:17 AM, Robert Bashe -> David Drummond wrote:

 DD>> In all Australian states marriage is between one man and one woman -
 DD>> no multi party or same sex allowed. That has no basis other than
 DD>> religious.

 RB> Tommyrot. The Australians just don't want to die out. Ever seen a
 RB> pregnant man, or a woman impregnated by another woman? As for
 RB> "marriage", indeed religious in part (for some, at least), but mostly
 RB> legal privileges and responsibilities. Nobody is forced to marry - that
 RB> also applies to men and women who just live together (how tolerant we
 RB> have become!) - but on the other hand, if it means so little, why insist
 RB> on the word?

Do you honestly think that legalising same sex marriage is going to discourage
people from breeding, and turn them gay, or that not making it legal will force
gay people into hetero relationships and make them have children? Your
religious brainwashing may have coloured your thoughts.

 RB> For me, this is just one more instance of publically flouting one's
 RB> sexual orientation. "Straights" don't go around bragging about their
 RB> potency in public - even having parades to show how "straight" they are
 RB> - so why should queers ("gay", for me, is _still_ "happy" or "joyous")
 RB> do so?

Because gay people have been persecuted by the religious bigots for so long.
They think it a big deal to have the freedom to be themselves.

 RB> I happen to believe that one's sexual orientation is, like
 RB> religion, a _private_ matter and not something to be discussed or even
 RB> publically advertised. The "don't ask, don't tell" rule that at least
 RB> _used_ to apply in the American military was, at least in my eyes, a
 RB> very good rule.

Because it offends the religious views?

 DD>> Voluntary euthanasia is illegal in all Australian states for purely
 DD>> religious reasons.

 RB> You mean assisted euthanasia. Voluntary euthanasia is suicide and
 RB> there's no way to punish that even theoretically. OK, here's one where
 RB> we agree. I also think everyone should have the right to end his/her
 RB> life as desired, and should have the option of assistance to ensure
 RB> quick and painless death.

 DD>> There are some limits on commercial trading on certain religious
 DD>> holidays.

 RB> They'll go. This used to be common in Germany too, but nowadays only
 RB> applies to Sundays - at one point that will disappear, too.

What is special about Sundays? Nothing to do with the Christian religion is it?

-- 
regards

David

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