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Skriven 2009-12-11 13:44:59 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
   Kommentar till text 1617 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Amanda Knox
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11 Dec 09 07:42, Robert Bashe wrote to Roy Witt:

 RB> Roy Witt wrote to Scott Little on Thursday December 10 2009 at 14:38:

 SL>>>>> Whereas the Americans insist on having people that have never set
 SL>>>>> foot in the USA deported from their home countries to stand trial
 SL>>>>> in American courts.

 RW>>>> We learned that from the Euros.

 SL>>> Is this something that happened centuries ago at the behest of some
 SL>>> king, or more recent?

 RW>> It all started here when the Isrealies vertually kidnapped people
 RW>> from the Americas to stand trial in Isreal.

 RB> Eichmann. So what does that have to do with "the Euros"? As far as I
 RB> know, Israel is still not considered part of Europe.

Look up the date, September 11, 1947

Where in the news, the United States State Department futilely urged the
British government to reconsider its decision to send the 4400 Exodus Jews
back to Germany.

Britain and Germany are Euro countries, right?

Then there's the time before WW2 that the Germans (NAZI) deported a boat
load of Jews, telling the world how great Germany is for allowing them to
go without visa', etc...

 RB> And how does that affect the States in any way?

Since the atrocities of Nazi Germany before and during WW2, anything
that pertains to violations of human rights becomes the business of the
US...you should know that, being an ex-USAian.

 RB> No American was involved.

LOL! Stupid is as stupid says.

 RB> And what do you care about Argentina, where the kidnapping took
 RB> place? Zilch.

Putting words in my mouth again. That really shows your ignorance.

 RB> So where's the big "precedent"? In your mind.

 RW>> You might also say that it really started when the Nazi' deported
 RW>> people from conquered Europeon countries to concentration camps in
 RW>> other Europeon countries.

 RB> "If I throw enough dirt, some will stick" - Josef Goebbels

And so it has, see: Ivan Demjanjuk's deportation to Germany for trial
without any proof.

 RB> You learn from the best.

Usually, the best learn from the worst of the bunch. Josef Goebbels was no
angel.

 RW>> Even today, the Germans ask for the deportation of people from the
 RW>> states and elsewhere to stand trial in Germany for crimes they have
 RW>> no proof of that person's guilt.

 RB> People aren't extradited aka deported from any country if there's "no
 RB> proof of guilt".

Ivan Demjanjuk has yet to be proven guilty. He has been deported and tried
many times in the past 30 years for the same crime. The man is innocent,
but Germany has to save face so their sorry assed Jews don't get mad at
them.

 RB> It just isn't done, and no country would even request extradition
 RB> without proof.

Germany did and has.

 RB> You're going on about John Demjanjuk again, and again you should get
 RB> your facts straight.

Said the factless idiot.

 RW>> Even some who have been found innocent of any crimes here, have been
 RW>> deported to Germany for such trials.

 RB> Not "some", "one". And the Americans apparently found the evidence
 RB> the Germans presented convincing enough to (again) strip him of his
 RB> US citizenship and hand him over for trial.

Stripped of his citizenship 7 years ago. After exhausting all means of
appeal, even as high as the USSC, he was deported without proof, but by
mere accusation. His only crime was to lie on his application to enter the
US.

 RB> Are you saying that the American authorities were in collusion with
 RB> the Germans

More like, willing to give up a 'naturalized' citizen to appease the
bastards.

 RB> to railroad a "true-blue American citizen"? Then you should take the
 RB> matter up with the Americans.

See naturalized...'True Blue American' is one who is born a US citizen.
Extradition of whom is a lot harder for foreign countries to pull off.

 RW>> Even the Isrealies agree that he isn't who the Krauts say he is.

 RB> Not quite. They couldn't prove his identity with "Ivan the Terrible"
 RB> and that was the basis for lifting the conviction. The Germans
 RB> apparently have other evidence, that will come out during the trial.

Apparently they don't...they just have the wool pulled over your eyes.

                R\%/itt

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