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Skriven 2011-04-24 10:09:00 av WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140)
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 WC>Dick Cheney and Halliburton for instance were both Saddam supporters and
 WC>suppliers, up until the time they weren't.

 LL> Donald Rumsfeld shook Saddam's hand.  In Baghdad.  Before we
 LL> invaded and had him hanged by a Shiite hit squad.  And now Rummy
 LL> is on the campaign trail hawking his new book...

There's a great deal of money to be made supporting both sides
in a war.

Below a certain socio-economic level a distinct downside kicks in however.

Long a principled opponent of a mandatory draft 
I now find myself reversing my views on that issue with the
provision it is equally applied to all.

 >MH>Freedom has never been free.  There is always a cost.  The US should
 >MH>not assume the financial burden.  Gold, oil, or whatever, the debt
 >MH>should be settled.  We all know China isn't lending the US money just
 >MH>out of the goodness of their hearts..

 WC>No superpower is.

 WC>The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

 LL> Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose.

 WC>Vigilance starts at home and required an informed electorate to see to
 WC>it that our leadership is held accountable.
 LL> An informed electorate does not matter anymore, as the powers that
 LL> be put in whoever they want regardless of what the public wants.
 LL> The powers that be have the ways and means to make us think we want
 LL> what they want, but the public does not have any real choice as to
 LL> who is or is not elected.  In that sense, elections don't matter.
 LL> So why bother to vote?  Especially with electronic voting, with
 LL> no paper trail left to follow.

 WC>That has not been the case for too long.

 LL> It is a lost cause.

 WC>Follow the money.

 LL> Muckrakers such as Jack Anderson are no longer around (Greg Palast
 LL> is, but he is a rare exception).

Indeed and emphesis on rare, who but a vanishingly small few
review his work?
Bob Klahn I know, yourself, I and spare others here I'm aware of.

 WC>These military adventures are well orchastrated and profit the very
 WC>few already obscenely well off at great cost to the working and poor.

 LL> Those military adventures are not as well orchestrated as you might
 LL> think.  There is much you do not know and do not want to know.

The more i learn the more I learn I do not want to know.

 WC>Take a look at the biography and some of the comments made by
 WC>Smedley Butler hardly any kind of a wimp by anyones definition.

 LL> Greg Palast's latest is dealing with the nuclear power industry,
 LL> and Japan's role in expanding nuclear power in the USA.  Check out
 LL> his web site.  Also lots of stuff on Katrina.  Boggles the mind.

I've been there relatively recently and upon your recommendation I 
shall revisit it.

Here are two for review as well.

http://www.idealist.ws/
http://www.fairewinds.com/

 WC>The price of freedom is one thing, being taken for a sucker is another.

 LL> What else is new?

Nothing at all in human nature.
It's all about taking and being taken.

 WC>... Smedley Butler explained it to me.

 LL> It's all about money.  Once you understand the money game, then
 LL> politics is easy.  Obama is no different than any other politician
 LL> in that regard.  Nostradamus had it right so many centuries ago,
 LL> his anagram of antichrist being MABUS - combining BUSH/OBAMA into
 LL> one word.

Smedley Butler came to that conclusion as well, about the money that is.


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