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Text 1771, 103 rader
Skriven 2009-12-17 15:40:04 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
   Kommentar till text 1748 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Ivan the Terrible
=========================
Hello Bob,

"Off with his head!" - The Red Queen

>LL>Eichmann never harmed a fly.

RB>A very ignorant statement, Lee.

Not at all.  Eichmann was a clerk.  Just a lowly clerk.

RB>Ever hear of the "Wannsee Conference"? Eichmann was present,
RB>and wrote the minutes and arranged for the deportation of jews
RB>("units") to the extermination camps.

Work camps, Bob.  Work camps.  The Jews were housed in camps in order
to provide goods and services for Germany.  They were fed, clothed, and
given shelter so they could do their jobs.  Certainly a lowly clerk such
as Eichmann would have had no idea the people in such work camps would
have been abused in any way, shape, or form...

>RB>If John Demjanjuk had been confirmed to be "Ivan the Terrible", he
>RB>would have been executed.

>LL>You do not know that.

RB>I do.

What do you know, Bob?  Were you there?  I wasn't.
Tell us about "Ivan the Terrible".  Tell us about the
horrors committed against the Jewish workers in the
camp.  What did this "Ivan the Terrible" supposedly
do to gain such notoriety and fame?  Is this "Ivan
the Terrible" the same person as John Demjanjuk?
Can you identify him as such?  I can't.  And I am
not sure anybody else can, either.

An Israeli appeals court overturned the death sentence an Israeli
lower court had imposed on Demjanjuk, citing "insufficient evidence"
as per his true identity.  The real reason, of course, was that
Demjanjuk was an innocent man.  Totally innocent.

RB>Read the report of the trial at Wikepedia and elsewhere.

Propaganda should never be accepted as gospel truth.  Especially
Jewish propaganda.  To this day, Israeli web sites insist that Demjanjuk
and "Ivan the Terrible" are one and the same person.  Even though it has
been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the real "Ivan the Terrible"
was a different man, a different man by the name of Marchencko who most
likely was killed sometime between 1945 and 1947.  So much for Israeli
"justice".  But hey.  For Jews, the only "good" Nazi is a dead Nazi.
What does it matter if the Jews had executed the wrong Nazi?

RB>Why are you making such unfounded statements?

Unfounded statements?  What unfounded statements?  Where is the proof
or evidence that Eichmann actually knew what was going on inside those
work camps, and deliberately sent millions of innocent Jews to their
deaths?

Where is the proof or evidence that "Ivan the Terrible" and John
Demjanjuk are one and the same person?  Just because the Jews say
so does not make it so.

The fact of the matter is that no such proof or evidence exists.
Never did.  It is a figment.  A figment of Jewish imagination.

Guilt by accusation should never be the basis of justice.  And yet,
that is what you are suggesting.  Demjanjuk was falsely accused,
and brought to trial in a country where everybody wanted him dead.
He was condemned and sentenced to death.  Not based on any real
evidence, but on the mere accusation that he was "Ivan the Terrible".
An Israeli appeals court overturned the conviction, claiming
"insufficient evidence", thus (temporarily) freeing an innocent man.
But the Israeli courts never said he was innocent.  Even though the
Jews knew for an absolute fact that Demjanjuk was not the same person
as "Ivan the Terrible".

RB>Only to generate traffic?

The Jews claim that Hitler ordered the extermination of the Jews.
And yet, no historian of note has ever been able to find any such
order given by Hitler.  The Jews claim that Eichmann signed the
orders given by Hitler.  And yet, no historian of note has ever
been able to find any such orders signed by Eichmann.  So who is
kidding who?

The Jews claim that John Demjanjuk is the same person as "Ivan the
Terrible".  Yet they could not prove it, which is why they set him
free.  And now they want to get somebody else to do their dirty work
for them.  Convict the Nazi!  With, or without evidence!  It makes
no difference!  The man is a Nazi!  Innocent?  You gotta be kiddin'
me!  There are no innocent Nazis!  As such, he should die!  Or at
the very least, behind bars, in solitary confinement!

The blood is on Jewish hands.  And their collaborators.

--Lee


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