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Text 18868, 93 rader
Skriven 2011-05-17 17:56:02 av Stewart Arnett (3:772/100)
  Kommentar till text 18794 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: I wanna!
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Hello Michiel.

16 May 11 11:31, you wrote to Roy Witt:

 MV> Hello Roy,

 MV> On Saturday May 14 2011 17:35, you wrote to me:

 MV>>>>>>> He had no intention of molesting a child.

 RW>>>> But he did...fyi, a 14yo, contrary to your opinion, is not a
 RW>>>> woman. Nor is she at liberty to legally consent to a sexual
 RW>>>> act.

 MvdV>>> Be that as it may be, in HIS perception having sex with a 14
 MvdV>>> yo is not molest.

 RW>> Actually it is. The law isn't there to keep the 14yo from having
 RW>> sex

 MV> No, it isnt. The law may say it is molest, but that does not change
 MV> someone's perspective. If having sex with a 14 year old is not molest
 MV> in someone's perspective, than that someone can not have the intention
 MV> to molest by the intention to have sex. Simple logic, the law can not
 MV> change that.

 MvdV>>> So he can not possibly have had the INTENT to molest.

 RW>> His actions speak louder than your words. He INTENDED to have sex
 RW>> with a minor, which is why he traveled to Chicago in the first
 RW>> place.

 MV> Are you to stupid to see the difference between having the intent to
 MV> have sex or the intent to molest?

 MvdV>>> Had sex taken place, then according to US law it would have
 MvdV>>> been molest, bu the molest would have been unintentional.

 RW>> He wasn't arrested for molesting, he was arrested for his intent,

 MV> But he was MOT convicted for that...

 MvdV>>> I admit to no such thing. You are jumping to conclusions.

 RW>> You have suggested that his intent was to meet the 14yo

 MV> MEET. No more that that.

 RW>> Then don't continue to defend a criminal.

 MV> He is not a criminal, he was the victim  of a dirty trick.

 RW>>>> Blom violated that US law in using the internet in sending
 RW>>>> pictures of his penis to the 14yo.

 MvdV>>> When he send those pictures he was in The Netherlands and
 MvdV>>> therefore not subject t US law.

 RW>> It is against US law to send pornographic pictures over the
 RW>> internet to a minor in the US, no matter where they originate.

 MV> Yes, and THAT is the problem. That is one of the reasons why so many
 MV> hate you so much. You have no respect for other cultures and other
 MV> nation's sovereignty. You extend the dirty claws of your laws and
 MV> morals over national borders whenever you deem fit. And you get away
 MV> with it by right of might. It is that kind of attitude that made you a
 MV> lot of enemies. 9/11 was a case of "ye reap what ye saw"

Don't be such a pratt Michael, you are more intelligent than that. The pictures
were illegal in America and whether they were legal in Blom's country or not
mean sweet FA when they arrived in the American regime. Blom was not
intelligent enough to check out if it was legal to send such thing into
America.

There are many things that we do not want in New Zealand, mostly outside pests
and plants, people can send them in the post and if they are found they are
destroyed. People try to bring things in with them and are asked at the border
have you got ???? If they say 'No' and are searched and do have them then they
are either sent home or to prison here. Same with Blom it wasn't illegal to
have his intentions in Holland but those intentions he imported into the States
were illegal in the States, there he got what he was supposed to get. Our legal
system in NZ is based on the Westminister system from the UK and it has "with
intent to" laws written into it and the intent to have under age sex is one of
them. Blom would have been in the crap here as well. So don't get your
knicker's in a knot because one of your coutrymen broke the laws of a coutry he
was going to visit by intent just make sure you don't do the same when you go
somewhere like there, here, Aussie or the UK. China would probably have shot
him for it and charged his estate for the bullet.

Stewart

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