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Skriven 2011-05-18 10:58:11 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Misconceptions (was: I wanna!)
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Hello Robert,

On Monday May 16 2011 16:04, you wrote to me:

 MV>> Yes! forcing 14 years old girls to expose their genitalia and have
 MV>> them touched by strangers is a humiliating experience.

 RB> Then most 14-year-old girls (at least in western countries) have been
 RB> humiliated at least several times during their lives (and will
 RB> continue to be humiliated until they die, if they receive proper
 RB> medical care),

Don't you understand the difference between a trusted doctor of one's own
choice - one who has sworn an oat of confedentiality and sworn to always act in
the patient's best interest - and a LEO who has a totally different objectve at
heart?

 MV>> It is a serious breach of habeus corpus.

 RB> You should distinguish between a gynacologist and "dirty old men".

I do and I count LEO's with the "dirty old man".

 RB> And nobody is "forced" to do anything. The people involved - usually
 RB> the parents - are generally more than willing to help put a genuine
 RB> molester behind bars,

"Generally"? And you accuse me of generalising too much....

Bob, we were not discussing molest, we were discussing the difficulty of
proving underage sex when all involved deny it took place.

Were I to find out that my 14 year old daughter willingly had sex, calling the
law would certainly NOT be the thing I would do.

 RB> and forensic evidence is the best way to do that. Courts don't
 RB> generally like to have children testify at such proceedings,

I think putting one's daughter's boy friend behind bars is what most parents
woulkd think is the right thing to do in such cases.

I think most people in this part of the world prefer the way the people in the
US deal with youngsters and cars. They educate them before they get themselves
into trouble.

When my daughter was 14 year old, I educated her about sex.

Protecting children by shielding them from the evil world does not work.
Education and guidance does. And don't wait for when the law says they are of
legal age. Hormones do not wait for the law either.

 RB> Forensic evidence is more reliable, and more likely to convict.

Getting one's daughter's boy friend convicted is a cure that is worse than the
disease.


Cheers, Michiel

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