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Skriven 2011-06-18 08:08:32 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
  Kommentar till text 19979 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: What are we talking about now?
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Björn Felten wrote to Robert Bashe on Friday June 17 2011 at 15:35:

RB>> In the case of the Balkans, my impression was that the Europeans wuld
RB>> continue to "negotiate" right down to the last drop of blood of the
RB>> victims.

BF> Can we please hold it right there?

Maybe. If you care to discuss rather than merely to rant.

BF> By "the Europeans", what do you mean?

By the politicians in charge of dealing with the problems. The man on the
street could only wring his hands, which he did often - but there were damned
few of them advocating active intervention to stop the carnage.

BF> Surely you do not think that the majority of the 500 million European
BF> citizens were advocating this?

No, but your inference is interesting.

BF> You claim to have lived in Europe for more than a generation's worth
BF> of time, do you really think that the actions of our politicians in
BF> any way reflect the will of the European people?

Depends. In some cases definitely yes, in other definitely no. In this
particular case, the German public opinion was that all that was _terrible_ and
_someone_ ought to do _something_ about it. But _peacefully_.

Particularly the Greens had bad problems with this, and only Joshka Fischer
finally managed to get them behind the American-led coalition to intervene and
stop the bloodshed.

RB>> It sickened me to see Milosevic and Karadzic invited for
RB>> "negotiations" to various European capitals, while at the same time
RB>> you could see the carnage their people were causing every night on
RB>> TV.

BF> And you do not think it sickened the vast majority of the European
BF> population?

Not so much that they were willing to do anything except talk until the
Americans finally pressured NATO into acting even without an explicit go-ahead
from the UN.

BF> (several screens full of BS deleted)

Your "BS" - other people take such things more seriously, for example the
judges in the Hague.

Cheers, Bob

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