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Skriven 2011-06-28 09:14:57 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Geert Wilders
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Hello Robert,

On Monday June 27 2011 11:16, you wrote to me:

 MV>> A total ban of imigrants from "islamic countries".

 RB> Good start. Any particular reason why they should have any preference?

They don't have preferencd.

 RB> And how about their proportion of the total population, compared to
 RB> other minorities? I suspect it's a good deal higher.

What if it is? Why ban a group of people just becuase they are the largest of a
group of minorities? We did not do that to others in the past. Well, ok someone
in Germany tried that in the middel of the past century. That did not fall well
with the rest of the world...

 MV>> Muslims are a danger becuase they breed like rabbits. we will soon
 MV>> be overwhelmed by thjem and we will have the Sharia.

 RB> Definitely a possibility. The statistics support him.

No, thy do not. Not in The Netherlands anyway. Second generation Muslim
immigrants have LESS than average offspring. Wilder's claim that we are
overwhelmed by Muslim immigrants and their offsporing id NOT supported by the
facts.

Wilders twists the facts to fit his own ideas. He is a demagoge.

 MV>> Ban the Koran.

 RB> Also not a bad idea, if perhaps unrealistic.

So why stop at the Koran? Why not ban the Bible and the Torah too? And wgy
limit the ban to relligeous books? Why not form a commity of wise man that
reviews ALL books and decides if they should be banned.

 RB>  "Mein Kampf" is banned in Germany.

Understandable considering the history, but ineffective of course. Someone who
wants it will find a copy somewhere.

 MV>> Islam is not a religeon, it is a culture. A dangerous and hostile
 MV>> culture.

 RB> True.

No more than others.

 RB> Most religions don't have political aspirations nowadays.

They don't openly advertise those aspirations because they are a small minority
that can easely be ignored. But make no mistake, if the Christian
fundamentalists had their way, they would bring us back to the middle ages too.

I have no fear that will happen. Just as I have no fear the Muslim
fundamentalists will manage it. They are too small a minority.

 RB>  Islam still does, unchanged since the middle ages.

On;y the tiny minority of the fundmantalists. Tuye are no more a dange than the
Christian or Jewish fundamantalists.

 MV>> All Muslims back to their own country.

 RB> Only those who want to act as if they still lived in eastern Turkey or
 RB> Saudi Arabia. If all muslims entering the EU wanted to be assimilated,
 RB> learn the local language and accept the local culture and laws,

The majority of them do. And succeed...

 RB> Geert Wilders wouldn't have a chance.

Just as that non mantionable man in a country in Western Europe a bit over half
a century ago, who found a "solution" the 'Jewish problem"?

 RB> The fact that he represents the third most powerful party in the
 RB> Netherlands says a lot about the muslim population there.

Just as what happened to the Jews 70 years ago in Germany? Did that that say
anything about the Jews? Or did it say something about the man and his
followers who proposed the "solution"?

 RB> People are becoming tired of foreigners coming to _their_ country and
 RB> telling _them_ how they should act.

Yankee go home?

Cheers, Michiel

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