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Skriven 2011-07-24 15:21:26 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 21234 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Vicious comments
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24 Jul 11 12:11, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Robert Bashe:

 MV>>> The only one who decides if it is time to go, is the editor
 MV>>> himself. And unless he dies in office without appointing one, it is
 MV>>> he and only he, who decides who will be his successor.

 RB>> That sounds suspiciously like a hereditary monarchy. All you need is
 RB>> one bad apple to gain power, and Fidonews is done for.

Yeup. That could have happened under Doosche's rule as IC were it not for
those who opposed his take over.

 MvdV> The Fidonews editor is appointed by his/her predecessor.

That isn't set in stone by policy. It's merely a tradition somewhat like
the former rules of FN-SYSOP used to state that the moderator was elected.

 MvdV> Nowhere in the chain of authority is and was there ever any say
 MvdV> from "the people".

P4, sect 8.4 sets out how this situation can be changed.

 MvdV> Never in the 25+ year history of FidoNet was there a serious
 MvdV> attempt to change the system.

Fidonews? A precedent was set when an editor died while holding the
position and was replaced by the ZCC.

 MvdV>  It was good enough when all the Fidonews editors came from Z1.

We had good editors from Z3 and Z5.

But now this situation is no longer good enough because we have a rogue
editor who publishes nothing and claims to also be the moderator, which he
isn't qualified to be by his own demeanor.

 MvdV> If you wanted to change the system, you are 22 years late. You
 MvdV> should have acted before P4 was adopted. Now it is far too late in
 MvdV> the game.

Policy4, sect 8.4 sets out an election procedure that can be used by the
*Cs to take back the position and elect a new editor.

 MvdV> Calling for a change of the system now that YOU are on the
 MvdV> receiving end of having to swallow something you don't like is
 MvdV> hypocrite.

I'd say the hypocrite claims to be the editor/moderator. For us to swallow
his vile crapola doesn't make anyone but him the hypocrite.

 RB>> At the moment, we _have_ (in my opinion) a "bad apple" who should be
 RB>> considered on the basis of his achievements - and exchanged for
 RB>> another editor/moderator if the readership so decides.

 MvdV> We had bad apples before. A whole basket full of them I'd say. The
 MvdV> readership is, and always was, free to vote with the feet.

OTH, they're also free to oppose the editor and remove him from the chair.

You guys could sever this so-called Z2 echo and block everyone else from
the echo...may it live long and prosper in Sveden.

                R\%/itt


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