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Text 22807, 121 rader
Skriven 2011-11-15 19:54:23 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
Ärende: Ice Queen Lies Again
============================
Hello Everybody,

More lies by the Ice Queen found in FN_SYSOP echo -

"If the NAB still requires that an echo be elisted
in order to carry it, then i..."
- Michiel van der Vlist

"Used to.. not necessarily so now.  Roger may not
have realized that, who knows."
- Ice Queen

Analysis:

There is no mention of "the NAB" in P4.  It is a
made-up concept that has no official status in Fidonet.
It is used as a term of convenience by the Ice Queen
and her cohorts when it suits their purposes.

Mind reading is an ability the Troika has always claimed
to have.  Of course, little children claim Santa Claus also
has that same ability.  But very few adults believe in Santa
Claus...

"Björn would have to list it and say so then, if that is
what he wanted.  I don't think Björn wants it not distributed
though."
- Ice Queen

There is that mind-reading trick again.
For the record, these are the facts -
Björn Felten did elist the FN_SYSOP echo.
Björn Felten also elisted the FIDONEWS echo.
Naming himself as moderator of both echos.
That is something the Ice Queen does not want
others to know about.

Besides, why would anybody who has elisted an echo
have to relist that same echo within every six months?
An echolist would remain accurate for as long as the
moderator chooses to remain moderator of that echo,
with just one elisting having been made.

"BTW, Take a look at the echolist archive sometime..
you'll see some echos which are not distributed, but
are registered to keep them _off_ the backbone."
- Ice Queen

Pre-emptive elisting of echos so that nobody else
can add an echo of that particular name.  In other
words, a means to pre-emptively steal an echo.
Ross Cassell did it with the WHATS_HOT echo, elisting
the echo AFTER it had been removed from distribution
by Jack Yates.  I doubt Ross' reasons for doing so
had anything to do with what Janis or Ross may claim.

"I don't know what his reason was."
- Ice Queen

The Ice Queen seems to [temporailly] have lost her
mind-reading ability.  She is referring to Roger Nelson's
attempt to hijack the FN_SYSOP echo by having elisted the
FN_SYSOP echo on Thom LaCosta's private elisting site,
naming himself as sole moderator.  Well, ignorance is
no excuse.  Not even for the Ice Queen.

"I also know that it's not an easy thing to do to list
an echo `in some else's name'."
- Ice Queen

Sean Dennis did not find it difficult (ALL-POLITICS).
Ross Cassell did not find it difficult (FIDONEWS).
Earl Croasmun did not find it difficult (POLITICS).
Roger Nelson did not find it difficult (FN_SYSOP).

Oops.  I forgot.  Ross Cassell and Roger Nelson
attempted to steal an echo, not elist it for somebody
else.  :)

The fact of the matter is, most folks do not find
it difficult to elist an echo for others.  In fact,
even a novice could do so, simply by following the
instructions on Thom LaCosta's web page.
But the Ice Queen claims she is both ignorant
and stupid, all at the same time.

"Why would it be considered a hostile act if the other
zones don't even recognize the echolist..."
- Ice Queen

The Ice Queen and her gang have a history.
A history of lies and deceipt.  As such, why
should anybody outside of their little circle
believe a word of what they say?  The echolist
has been abused, even though Thom LaCosta may
have had the best of intentions.  As such,
the echolist cannot be trusted to be accurate
today, or at any time in the future.

"You don't see the humor in this, over something
that should be of no concern to you... I do."
- Ice Queen

Ice Queen has a wicked sense of humor.
Much like Lucy van Pelt, of Peanuts fame.

For the uninitiated -

Lucy van Pelt thought it hilarious to trick
Charlie Brown into trying to kick a football,
watching him fall flat on his ass.  So much
so she continued to trick him with the same
old kick the football schtick time after time
after time.  But then, that seven-year-old kid
was/is a true psycho (Borderline Personality
Disorder).

--Lee

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