Text 23038, 58 rader
Skriven 2011-11-22 20:54:57 av Nicholas Boel (2394.fidonews)
  Kommentar till text 23032 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: See what I mean...read the bottom line
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  Re: See what I mean...read the bottom line
  By: Ross Cassell to Nicholas Boel on Tue Nov 22 2011 06:42 pm

 > Unions are a concept whose time has come and has long been gone.

Apparantly the other half of the US doesn't believe that statement.

 > I remember a Union going on strike, destroyed Eastern Airlines, because they
 > couldnt keep their planes in the air...

Strikes only seem to go on in the public sector more these days. I don't even
think we're able to strike in most scenerios nowadays. A lot of contractors
have 'no strike' clauses in their contracts now. Then again, I have no reason
to strike, anyway.

 > Ever wonder why manufacturing has gone overseas?

I'm sure it has a LOT more reasons than just unions, seeing as though back
when the stuff was made here, it was a hell of a lot more durable. Now it's all
cheap crap so the big companies can sell crap, save money on paying their
workers with dog food, and when that crap breaks, people will buy more of it
because that's all that's available these days, and will repeat the cycle every
5 years or so. Better for those big businesses, isn't it?

 > and I do have issues with public sector workers unionized...

Mostly agree. Will explain more further on....

 > Gee who benefits from a union if the teachers, police or firefighters decide
 > strike??

 > In Tacoma Wa, earlier this school year, the teachers went on strike, I guess
 > the kids reaped the rewards, eh?

Not at all. And this is where I completely agree with you. If my kids were old
enough to be in school when all this Walker vs. teachers crap was going on..
I'd be throwing a fit.

Same with government workers. I'm sure you've called a government office
requesting a piece of signed paper, or a permit or something. Notice the damned
turn around rate? Does it really take 2-3 weeks to mail me a piece of paper?

Either way, there's some things I'm for (jobsite conditions, proper training,
testing/certifications for doing certain work, good pay, among other things)
and some things I don't agree with (striking, voting democrat only because the
union supports them, most of the public sector for being greedy and always
wanting more, even in a bad economy, etc).

I was a non-union HVAC installer for 7 years before I made the move. When we
found out my wife was pregnant with our first, I realized I was stuck at the
same pay for the rest of my life unless I did something differently.. So I did.
*shrug*

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