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Skriven 2011-12-11 19:34:25 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 23425 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
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11 Dec 11 08:00, Robert Bashe wrote to Roy Witt:

 RB> Roy Witt wrote to Robert Bashe on Saturday December 10 2011 at 15:11:

 JK>>>> by Melissa Muller (can't make those umluts over the u in her last
 JK>>>> name)...

 RW>> Mueeller or would it be Mu‰ller?

 RB> Neither. Either Muller with Umlauts over the "u", or Mueller.

Ahhh. The "Mueeller" you see was written here with umlauts over the
'u'...somebodies software changed it just like it was written as you
suggest, except that I had added an 'e' after the umlauted 'u'...

 RB>>> No problem, just do as the Germans: add an "e" after the "u", i.e.
 RB>>> "ue" would be Umlaut "u".

 RW>> This one?: ue

 RB> Exactly.

What left here was an umlauted 'u'...

 RB>>> Same with the other Umlauts, and of course the German "Esszet" -
 RB>>> the thing that looks like a capital "B" and is a combination of an
 RB>>> old-fashioned sweeping "s" with the letter "z" - is transliterated
 RB>>> as "ss".

 RW>> This one?: ss

 RB> Right.

What left here was an umlauted 's'...

 RW>> Nice thing about Windows is that there is a Character Map availble
 RW>> with several subsets of character from Baltic, Central and Western
 RW>> Europe to choose from. And then there are the cryllic, Japanese and
 RW>> a few more Chinese to choose from.

 RB> Only problem is that they don't display properly in fido, as we've
 RB> seen with the various displays of the "o" with two dots over it in
 RB> Bjorn's first name. People who try to write that in fido may see the
 RB> correct letter on _their_ screens, but what other people will see is
 RB> pot luck.

Seen that happen many times. Mostly you see a 'oe' or a '+' after the
'j'...

 RB> That's why I personally don't think it's very productive to
 RB> insist on that, any more than if a Russian would insist on having his
 RB> name spelled in Cyrillic characters in a non-Russian echo.

Yes, but the arguement you'll get back from Bjoern is that you're using
antiquated software...modern software, which is what he uses doesn't
convert the umlaut characters...

 RB> _He_ might see his name then, but nobody else (except in a
 RB> Russian-language echo) would know if it were a name or just character
 RB> gibberish.

I see it as gibberish...frequent the ENGLISH_TUTOR echo and you can see it
first hand as well.

 RB> And Bjorn's first name is definitely _not_ spelled (as I've often
 RB> enough seen it) with a graphics character instead of the
 RB> double-dotted "o".

I've seen that graphics character, but I don't think he writes it that
way.


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