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Skriven 2011-12-15 11:38:06 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
     Kommentar till en text av Nick Andre
Ärende: Ward's article
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Nick Andre wrote to Robert Bashe on Wednesday December 14 2011 at 11:17:

RB>> The flame war started long before the filtering. Only the filtering
RB>> prevent it from escalating even further.

NA> Sorry, it absolutely did not.

Sorry, it did precisely that. As you may note, we're writing in Fidonews now,
and there are no flames going back and forth.

[N.B. I take that back: Bjorn just jumped in with a typically confrontational
message.]

NA> It just spilled over to FN_SYSOP and now FTSC_PUBLIC. So nothing was
NA> prevented and as far as I can see, it just escalated much further.

What happens in other echos is of no concern _here_. If a troublemaker wants to
involve multiple echos, he'll do it. The point is and was that Fidonews is and
was supposed to be some kind of "official" fido echo, and that it was being
misused by, among others, the so-called "moderator" to carry out crusades
against participants _he_ judged "politically incorrect". A _real_ moderator
would have stopped that immediately, not participated himself and certainly not
done his best to increase tensions instead of reducing them.

NA> I just fail to understand exactly how this whole situation was
NA> supposed to solve problems. The damage done will most likely be
NA> irrepairable.

That appears to be a reasonable assumption, which I share after reading Ward's
unfortunate posting in the "Bjorn Felten Fidonews Letter".

NA> Personally I have nothing against Bjorn... I've chatted with him a few
NA> times.

I have a great deal against him for the damage he has caused in fido. Without
his polarizing and conflict-laden attitudes and postings, the current split
would never have occurred.

In my eyes, he is no better than our own home-grown (R24) ex-moderator Helmut
Hullen, who also single-handedly almost managed to totally disrupt an entire
region. The difference now is that Ward threw Helmut out of the nodelist and
even had to defend himself against a legal suit brought by Helmut. Ward had our
(R24) support then, and we voluntarily paid some of his legal expenses.

This time, I think Ward is badly off-base, allying himself with Bjorn. It's as
if he had not taken Helmut Hullen out of the nodelist, but instead defended him
against everyone in R24 who wanted nothing more than for him to disappear, but
at least be eliminated as a moderator.

Ward could have cooled emotions and taken Bjorn out of the firing line, but
unfortunately he didn't. I regret that deeply, since that now cements the
present split. The only winner is Bjorn Felten - all the rest of us, including
Ward, are losers.

Cheers, Bob

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