Text 24302, 118 rader
Skriven 2012-01-05 01:10:10 av Alexey Vissarionov (2:5020/545)
  Kommentar till text 24282 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: Editors history
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Good ${greeting_time}, Roy!

03 Jan 2012 09:29:18, you wrote to Bj?rn Felten:

 RW> ;A FidoNet Nodelist for Friday, January 3, 2003 -- Day number 003 : 15132
 RW> Zone,2,Europe_(003),Belgium,Ward_Dossche,32-3-4480880,33600,V34,VFC,CM,XX,
 RW> ,1,ZoneGate_Eur_NorthAm,BE,Ward_Dossche,32-3-4480880,33600,V34,VFC,CM,XX
 RW> ,2,Fidonews_Editor,Sweden,Bjorn_Felten,46-31-944907,33600,CM,XA,V34,X75

Look at http://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/?address=2:2/2 tracking:

 8 Jan 1988, nodelist.008:
,2,Echogate_EU_NA,EUR,Henk_Wevers,31-8380-37156,2400,#CM:

 9 Sep 1988, nodelist.253:
Node removed from the nodelist

 11 Jan 2002, nodelist.011:
,2,Fidonews_Editor,Sweden,Bjorn_Felten,46-31-944907,33600,CM,XA,V34,X75

 4 Nov 2005, nodelist.308:
,2,Fidonews_Editor,Sweden,Bjorn_Felten,46-31-960447,33600,CM,XA,V34,X75

You can see there were no changes for over 6 years. Now, compare that to
http://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/?address=1:1/1

 3 Oct 1986, nodelist.276:
,1,FidoNews,Clifton_NJ,Thom_Henderson,1-201-472-8065,2400,MO:,XP:

[...]

At the time of Bjorn's appointment, there was no Fidonews Editor at 1:1/1 :

 9 Feb 2001, nodelist.040:
,1,Zone_1_Echomail_Coordinator,Wausau_FL,Foxy_Ferguson,1-850-773-0100,28800,
CM,MO,XR,V34,VFC

 27 Sep 2002, nodelist.270:
Node removed from the nodelist

 15 Nov 2002, nodelist.319:
,1,Zone_1_Echomail_Coordinator,Berlin_MD,Joe_Davis,1-410-641-1382,9600,CM,
XA,V32B,V42B

 6 Feb 2004, nodelist.037:
Node removed from the nodelist

 28 May 2004, nodelist.149:
,1,Zone_1_Echomail_Coordinator,Dawson_Creek_BC,Gord_Hannah,1-250-784-1945,
9600,V34,V32b,V42,MO,XA

 14 Sep 2007, nodelist.257:
,1,Zone_1_Echomail_Coordinator,Dawson_Creek_BC,Gord_Hannah,000-0-0-0-0,300,MO

 24 Mar 2011, nodelist.083:
Node removed from the nodelist

Here, the "contemporary history" begins:

 11 Aug 2011, nodelist.223:
,1,FidoNews_Editor,Vidor_TX,Gary_Perkins,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,XX,
INA:setxbbs.synchro.net,IBN

 22 Dec 2011, nodelist.356:
,1,FidoNews_Editor,Utica_NY,Nick_Kill,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,XX,
INA:amachat.zapto.org,IBN

 RW> You were fired on or about the following date by a vote of the people
 RW> (sysops)...

Please publish MSGIDs and kludges of messages containing those people votes,
otherwise you are a liar.

Also, your software seems to cut significant parts of messages - you should
upgrade or change it.

 RW> ;A FidoNet Nodelist for Friday, July 29, 2011
 RW> Zone,1,North_America,Windsor_NY,Janis_Kracht,1-607-655-5652,9600,CM,
 RW> XX,H16
 RW> ,1,FidoNews_Editor,Vidor_TX,Gary_Perkins,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,XX,
 RW> INA:setxbbs

 RW> ;A FidoNet Nodelist for Friday, December 23, 2011
 RW> Zone,1,North_America,Windsor_NY,Janis_Kracht,1-607-655-5652,9600,CM,
 RW> XX,H16
 RW> ,1,FidoNews_Editor,Utica_NY,Nick_Kill,000-0-0-0-0,300,CM,XX,
 RW> INA:amachat.za

Now, I want to see the message from Bjorn Felten (with all kludges which I'll
thoroughly investigate) where he resigns from the Fidonews Editor position and
passes the duty to someone else.

 BF>> Hint: The Fidonews Editor appoints the next Fidonews Editor, who
 BF>> appoints the next Fidonews Editor, and so on. All you have to do is
 BF>> backtrack from there. That's what provenance is all about.
 RW> Hint: when it becomes clear to Fidonet Sysops that the Fidonews Editor
 RW> has made a mockery of the publication and the FIDONEWS echo by his
 RW> very words and bad behavior, it behooves them to take action to
 RW> restore it to their satisfaction. You are no longer the Fidonews
 RW> Editor by a vote of 300:2 with 2 abstentions...

So, the opinions of

gremlin@hren:~ > echo `cat ~/fido/etc/nodelist.ndl | egrep '^(|Hub|Pvt),' | wc
-l` - '300+2+2' | bc
2790

sysops were not queried at all? Well, now I understand how does your vaunted
"dyermocracy" work, and how do you actually use it...


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