Text 27238, 82 rader
Skriven 2012-03-25 18:24:39 av alexander koryagin (2:5020/2140.2)
  Kommentar till text 27175 av Peter Krefting (2:203/0.222)
Ärende: Re: format=flowed (was: Jamnntpd Servers List)
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Hi, Peter Krefting! How are you?
on Friday, 23 of March, I read your messsage to alexander koryagin
about "format=flowed (was: Jamnntpd Servers List)"

 ak>> Of course it is looking bad when a formatted text with the width
 ak>> 80 symbols is displaying at a 40 column display.

 PK> It looks equally bad when looking at 80-column text on a
 PK> proportional display with 120-200 character line width. I had the
 PK> same issue when I was reading Fidonet directly using FleetStreet
 PK> (under OS/2) with a proportional font. Posts written with proper
 PK> Fidonet software that did not insert hard linebreaks looked fine,
 PK> while stuff with hard linebreaks (like yours) looked awful.

Actually you say that you are not able to read a simple ASCII text
message when every line ends with a MSDOS linebreak (\r\n). It is
strange. Suppose I write in my message:

1. at first bla-bla. (\r\n)
2. at second bla2-bla2. (\r\n)
3. third I have to say.... (\r\n)

All these lines have hard line breaks. What's wrong with them? IMHO these
lines are legal and must be read everywhere. As well as these lines:

ak>> at first bla-bla.
qq> at second bla2-bla2.
third I have to say....

Does your software remove the linebreaks and you see like this?:

1. at first bla-bla. 2. at second bla2-bla2. 3. third I have to say....

If it is the case the problem is in your soft. IMHO every soft must show
a formatted MSDOS text without problem. MSDOS text is a holy cow for any
text processing software.

Maybe, there is something I still don't know. Explain to me then:

For instance, I reply to your sentence, and it has 200 symbols. What
I have to do?

First variant - I wrap you long line and make several short lines - a
paragraph where every line will have a linebreak (/r/n).

Second variant -  I preserve your line and just add your initials
at the beginning:

===========
 PK> bla-bla and .... here the line 200 symbol .... \r\n.
===========

Do you mean that when I read this line I must, at first, to format the
line, chop it into short lines and makes initials at every short line.
When I finish to answer your message I must reformat chop lines back
into one line again?

 ak>> IMHO if you have a 40 column display

 PK> I don't have a 40 column display. I don't have an 80 column
 PK> display, either. In text mode, I usually have line widths of around
 PK> 90-120 characters. In graphical, "columns" don't make sense when it
 PK> comes to measuring width.

Anyway for a while it is mystery for me why you, having 120 symbols
graphical display, cannot see properly my message wrapped at 72 symbols,
for instance.

Well, it is a good subject for talking. As we like to say in Russia "the
process is life, but the result is death." ;-) In principle, I can make
an option in my Quoter and it will reconstruct long line paragraphs
from the paragraphs that consisted of chopped lines.


[...It's better doing nothing than doing Nothing (c) Leo Tolstoy]
Bye Peter!
Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91
fido7.fidonews 2012 


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