Text 27654, 75 rader
Skriven 2012-04-04 09:28:26 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 27626 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Fidonews Vol 29 No 09 February 27, 2012 Page: 2
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04 Apr 12 18:14, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

 ml>>>> i've been asked that several times by latinos and looked at them
 ml>>>> dumbfounded because of their accent...

 MvdV>>> If you did not understand, how did you know it was Spanish they
 MvdV>>> spoke? Or did you just ASSume?

 RW>> Did you not read the part about "because of their accent" ?
 RW>> Sometimes, even when I'm speaking with a Spanish person, his accent
 RW>> doesn't allow me to make heads or tails of a phrase as simple as
 RW>> that one.

 MvdV> If you can make heads nor tales of it, how can you be so sure it is
 MvdV> Spanish and not some similar sounding language like Portugese or
 MvdV> Italian?

Ummmm, because we were in 'Baja California Del Sur', he was astride a
horse, riding herd on cattle and dressed like a Mexican Cowboy (serape',
sombrerros, etc.)? I understood him when he asked for a 'cigarro' and I
replied that I only had 'papel cigarrillos'. But I didn't understand much
of what he said beyond that part of the conversation. Of course this was
in 1970 as we scouted the Baja from Ensenada to La Paz for a desert race
and I had only been studying 'Mexican Spanish' off and on for three years.

Mexican Spanish is not the same as Spanish, it's a form of Spanish slang.

 MvdV>>> Anyway, your colourful smoke and beautyful handcrafted mirrors
 MvdV>>> can not hide the fact that my calls to 6:6/0 were not answered
 MvdV>>> by a Fidonet mailer.

 RW>> Was/is there a nodelist flag to indicate that this phone number 'may
 RW>> be answered by a non-English speaking person, unless the sysop is
 RW>> home' at any time of day?

 MvdV> There is no such flag. A system should answer by modem when called
 MvdV> during ZMH. Answerin gvoice is annoying behaiviour as it incurs
 MvdV> undue cost on the caller.

Unless it is local policy to call voice first, perhaps to indicate via
voice that the person on the other end wishes to send netmail. As xxCarol
indicated in her many stories of the orient, the availability of telephone
service was very expensive, creating a situation much like Z2s where it
was cost prohibitive to call via POTS across the street.

 MvdV>>> A ZC that can not answer incoming mailer calls, can not
 MvdV>>> function as a ZC. A zone that does not have a functioning ZC
 MvdV>>> can not function as a zone.

 RW>> And yet it did, for many years with the help of a Phillipine RC who
 RW>> communicated in place of the ZC via netmail, echomail and whom even
 RW>> spoke English.

 MvdV> No, it did not. Terry Roti was off for month on drilling platforms.
 MvdV> The nodelist was maintained by a Russian named Anatoly. he slould
 MvdV> not have had a Z6 node number in the first place.

 MvdV> It did NOT work.

According to you, but there may have been other reasons that required a
different approach to netmail. As the Russians have done with P4, making
it work for them as they go along. e.g. it is a P4 EA violation to post
more than a certain amount of messages in any Russian echo because of the
over crowded conditions and long winded Russkies.


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