Text 27976, 82 rader
Skriven 2012-04-15 10:34:04 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 27919 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Non sysop as moderat
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15 Apr 12 07:07, Robert Bashe wrote to Roy Witt:

 RB> Roy Witt wrote to Robert Bashe on Saturday April 14 2012 at 07:22:

 RB> [HH]

 RW>> This was not as a technical matter per P4, but as a social matter
 RW>> among yourselves.

 RB> Agreed. But what other option was there?


EP1 provided one: 7. REMOVAL OF AN ECHOMAIL CONFERENCE MODERATOR:

You've previously stated that before you wrote R24 policy, that EP1 was in
force all over Z2...

 RB> The guy had his claws on a key echo and was turning it into a basis
 RB> for complaint writing.

Policy 4.07's, "Too easily annoyed" would have stopped that BS had there
been a *C with some balls.

 RB> But there is no way to remove a moderator - even one who misuses his
 RB> post so badly

LOL! BS!

 RB> - and the echo had such a general title, one without any really good
 RB> synonym, that there was no really sensible way to "vote with your
 RB> feet" by starting up something else.

hard_ware.ger, alt.hardware, etc. The latter puts a hardware echo at the
head of the echolist, beating hardware.ger all to hell.

 RB> That was tried, and failed. Too many people without a knowledge of
 RB> what was going on innocently asked or answered a question in the
 RB> logical echo for hardware - hardware.ger - and got clobbered for
 RB> doing so.

Vote with your feet when that happens.

 RB> Since it was an important echo, and the number of PCs from
 RB> Herrn Hullen was slowly but surely rising, people (basically the
 RB> whole R24 *C structure) finally - after two full years of discussion
 RB> - had enough and devised a way of removing him, since P4 provided
 RB> none.

*^) and yet y'all have the balls to state that EP1 AND P4.07 covers
echomail...

 RB> But arguing about the rights and wrongs in R24 at that time is a
 RB> waste of time.

Hind sight is a good teacher.

 RB> The only reason I brought up the matter here was because we have
 RB> someone who would, if he could, set himself up as "Moderator for
 RB> Life" of Fidonews, and who would deserve to have something like the
 RB> moderator removal procedure of R24 used on him.

Yet, most of your Z2 colleagues say that EP1 would do that job just as
easily.

 RB> In this case, though, he wasn't removed, but the echo was simply
 RB> split into a part he doesn't control and one he does. Hard to say
 RB> whether that's a better course of action than simply removing him,
 RB> but it works fairly well, too.

If you had read what Ward had to say about it, you would know that if he
wanted to, he could step in an remove him yet he has refused to do so...


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