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Skriven 2012-05-23 11:59:45 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 28892 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: P4 violation noted                  was: Janis defintions...
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23 May 12 10:27, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to mark lewis:

Anyone reading this that wants to get rid of MvdVlist has 120 days to file
a complaint for not following policy...see 'discovery' in P4...


 MvdV> Hello mark,

 MvdV> On Tuesday May 22 2012 12:13, you wrote to me:

 ml>>> not when you have agreed to follow the document so as to be a
 ml>>> participating node of the network... this is a requirement for
 ml>>> participation, ya know?

 MvdV>>> Says who?

 MvdV>>> I never signed a contract to the effect that I would follow P4

 ml>> i said "agreed"... i didn't say anything about a signed paper
 ml>> contract...

 MvdV> I never agreed to follow P4 to the letter.

 ml>> but that also brings up the question of what did you send to your
 ml>> prospective NC when you requested your node number? did you not fill
 ml>> out an application and send it via netmail??

 MvdV> No. I spoke to him on the phone. We agreed on a node number.
 MvdV> (2:500/555) I entered it into my configuration, he entered it in
 MvdV> the nodelist. That was it. P4 was never mentioned during that
 MvdV> conversation.

 MvdV> Side note: I was the cosysop of the R28 TipTop gate. Had been for
 MvdV> years. In that capacity I had been present at sysop- and hub
 MvdV> meetings. I had met most of the sysops in net 500 in person. I was
 MvdV> wll known in R28. I had already demonstrated the ability to send
 MvdV> and receive netmail and I had a mailer on-line during ZMH using a
 MvdV> point number. In net 500 one did not really need a node number to
 MvdV> fully participate. It was only when I was nominated for REC28, that
 MvdV> I needed a node number. Which was arranged in a five minute
 MvdV> telephone call with the NC500.

 MvdV> This may come as a shock to you, but in many parts of Z2, net 500
 MvdV> in particular, P4 was never accepted as the holy book that all must
 MvdV> follow. It was perceived as rammed down our throats by Z1 and parts
 MvdV> that did not jive with the local situation were ignored.

 MvdV> Bottom line: I was never asked to agree to follow all of P4. And so
 MvdV> I didn't.


 MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

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... besides, IMNSHO, Ward Dossche should resign as ZC2 and surrender his
... net node-number to the ZCC !            - Cato the Elder -


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