Text 29400, 81 rader
Skriven 2012-06-01 23:38:45 av Richard Webb (1:116/901.0)
  Kommentar till text 29382 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: The real free world..
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Hello Roy,

On Fri 2012-Jun-01 04:08, Roy Witt (1:387/22) wrote to Richard Webb:

 Roy>> So much for freedom of choice. Allow your users and points the
 Roy>> freedom to go elsewhere for the echo...If they're not in agreement
 Roy>> with it, let them decide to keep it or not.

 RW> A listed downlink could still link.

Roy> True of any system that has echomail set to 'passthrough'...I do
Roy> that for what I determine is of no interest to me, but allow for the
Roy> interests of anybody who wants them.

Indeed.  The only way I should show any nonsupport though
was not make it available to users and points.

 RW> OTherwise, FIdonews the echo was available from plenty of dial-up
 RW> systems.  IN fact, for quite awhile it was on pass through to Bob
 RW> Ackley's system only from here.

Roy> I put Ackley in a class where I'd put my friend Andrew. If he
Roy> has/had an interest, he would have made an effort to bring his
Roy> system back online and call for the echo. If it wasn't available
Roy> with a connection to you, then it certainly was with Roger Nelson
Roy> and a few others with POTS lines.

INdeed, or my uplink, or Janis, or many others.  But I don't limit what a
listed node can pull for message echoes.  But,
carriage on the bbs implies endorsement imho.  See below.

Roy> IMO, Ackley had burnt out and the death of a modem was the coup de
Roy> grace for him...

YEah sorta looks that way.

 RW> I think at the time there were two points reading any echomail at
 RW> all, and neither was interested.  Both have fallen away now anyway.

Roy> A result of showing no interest at all in anything concerning
Roy> Fidonet.

Indeed.  One fell away because he spends more time in the
hospital than out these days.

 RW> Imho this we're cool you're garbage type stuff has no place in an
 RW> echomail conference which purports to represent an international
 RW> network,

Roy> Huh? This we're cool? You're garbage? Re-phrase please.

Let me restate slightly.  "Our country's great, your
country/culture has no redeeming qualities ... " etc.  In an international
network we should be attempting to build
cultural bridges, not tear them down.

 RW> but that's me.  YOur mileage may vary as they say.  AS for who
 RW> started it and when, I really don't give a rat's rear end.

Roy> All of which is irrelevant...

YEp, which was 90% of what i saw happening, irrelevant for
the most part even to FIdonet.  There are several reasons I
could think of that I might wish to were I going over that
way visit Amsterdam.  I have made many friends via the net
over the years, and other than the occasional
miscommunication due to local dialects we have plenty in
common.  A Danish colleague in the audio production
newsgroups and I have much the same approach to our work,
etc.  Another from Italy has an entirely different approach, but I learn from
him as well.

Contrast that with this echo a year ago, plenty of acrimony, and not much other
than that.  I found it far from an
interesting read.


Regards,
           Richard
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