Text 29980, 168 rader
Skriven 2012-06-20 16:15:54 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 29919 av Richard Webb (1:116/901.0)
Ärende: Fidonews Vol 29 No 23 June 04, 2012 Page: 2
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19 Jun 12 20:52, Richard Webb wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>> ts-440 is opened up as is the 680.  The Icom 740 ahs the
 RW>> 'warc' bands but wont' tx or rx outside the amateur bands.

 Roy>> It will if you lift a diode, the right diode, I mean. I modified a
 Roy>> Icom 3210a that would xmit on business and police frequencies (big
 Roy>> mistake because kids like to play radio operator while dad is away
 Roy>> at work)...FCC didn't like it very much, so I returned it to type
 Roy>> accepted status.

 RW> Right, other Icom rigs will.  The removal of that diode gave you the
 RW> warc bands with the 740, but the Icom 740 doesn't even have general
 RW> coverage rx.

My IC-04at uses those same diodes, but they're too small for me to handle
anymore. Got them stored in a baggie, just in case someone volunteers to
help me out.

 RW> The 746 can be opened up for general coverage tx, as can
 RW> even the 706 iirc. HOwever, the 740 doesn't have that capability.  IT
 RW> was first designed about the time of warc 79 when 30 meters and 17
 RW> meters were added.  noT ENOUGH FREQ RANGE TO REACH CB FROM 12 METERS.
 RW> i THINK DONE THAT WAY INTENTIONALLY.  it BY ADN LARGE PREDATES TEH
 RW> 440S ETC. WITH THEIR GENERAL COVERAGE RX CAPABILITIES.

Icom probably got too many complaints from the FCC about the extended Xmit
coverage and those diodes.

 Roy>>> You can buy a 40ch cheaper than an old 23...people keep those 23ch
 Roy>>> radios around, especially if they're xtal controlled.

 RW>> No doubt.  Thing is, most of the time if I'm traveling in
 RW>> caravan we've got ham radio between them.

 ROY>> None of the people I travel in caravan with here have a HAM
 ROY>> license. None are interested in getting one either.

 RW>  Right, usually it's me and hand in the truck, xyl in the
 RW> van.  IF just xyl and I in the van, no carafvan, no need for cb.

Heh...Harry asked me if I had any 'spare' CBs around. I gave him one, but
he never installed it in his truck. Dunno what they use when they travel
to the various drag strips in caravans. I know his pit-partner has one in
his Silverado, but I've never asked if he uses it.

 RW> <snip>

 RW>>> I used to do one cb with dual watch capability in our
 RW>>> traveling show caravan, he'd listen to 19 or whatever the
 RW>>> standard road channel for the region is.  The other rode on
 RW>>> a side channel somewhere for intercommunication among us.

 Roy>>> 8^) we'd use VHF walkie-talkies for that. One of our gang was a
 Roy>>> mountain top serviceman, so the equipment was always available.

 RW>> Right, but cb was cheaper, and two of us had amplifiers.

 Roy>> Walkie-talkies were issued by my friend to those who needed one.
 Roy>> They were xtaled for one of his business repeaters and could be
 Roy>> switched to simplex for caravan use.

 RW> Right, we do that with gmrs, MOtorolla ht on our favorite
 RW> gmrs channel, a combo frs/gmrs talkie for the other vehicle, even if
 RW> xyl doesn't go along.  i use gmrs freqs with the remote truck, until
 RW> our wired intercom and all the gear is set up to communicate with my
 RW> help in fact, because i can stick a J pole on a mast at about 25 feet
 RW> off the truck, issue both helpers frs/gmrs portables with permanently
 RW> attached antennas.

I have two sets (pairs) of those...used them when moving from CA to
TX...Somewhere along the line we lost Andrew, who was driving the moving
van for us. That was around Gila Bend, AZ. I doubled back to look for him,
but he was nowhere to be seen or heard. Oh well, we continued on to Texas
and had pulled over in a rest-stop before entering the last town in New
Mexico before El Paso came up. I just happened to be listening when I
heard him calling me. Told him where we were and when he stopped, he said
that he had taken a wrong turn and was in Phoenix before he realized that
he was going west instead of east.

 Roy>>>> I can relate to it all since it resembles Fidonet a lot.

 RW>>> YEah that it does.  I use it to exchange relevant traffic
 RW>>> and road conditions info or something like that, or to
 RW>>> acquire it if necessary when traveling.

 RW> Yep, so I will carry a cb often, I think I've got an old 23
 RW> I bought at a yard sale, a midland, and a cb mag mount
 RW> running around here somewhere.

I found a 108" SS whip on a 5" coil when scrounging the CB radio source
... dunno what that is for. A little long for CB, so I"m thinking 10m...

 Roy>>> Back in the day, I had a Browning Golden Eagle base station and
 Roy>>> kept a Courier 23ch radio in the car. The Eagle could be tuned on
 Roy>>> the receiver end and xmit on any given xtal channel. I swapped two
 Roy>>> xtals in the Courier so that it received on one channel and
 Roy>>> xtransmitted on another. The wife could tune to my xtmit channel
 Roy>>> and hear me over the local noise of traffic on the way to work,
 Roy>>> while I listened for her on the quietest channel in town. I lived
 Roy>>> on a 'mesa' with a 4 element beam pointed down a canyon with I-5
 Roy>>> going thru it (my route to work in downtown SD). When she came on
 Roy>>> the air, I always turned the volume down, since she modulated that
 Roy>>> Eagle to the limit.

 RW>> Right, saw plenty of friends who had the Brownings.  I had
 RW>> the Tram that was similar.  Tunable rx xtal tx.

 Roy>> I have a Tram in the garage...it's a nice radio, but not what I'd
 Roy>> expect from Tram...at one time I had a Tram like yours, but it was
 Roy>> manufactured by Swan for use by Amateurs. A 1011D or something like
 Roy>> that.

 RW> YEah the Ciltronics, manufactured by Swan.  Had one of those for
 RW> awhile too.  The old Tram Titan II wasn't bad.  DIdn't have that
 RW> "ping" of the Browning from a capacitor being places across the tr
 RW> relay though.

Frankly, I thought that 1011D was a boat anchor...didn't keep it long. I
loved that Browning ping. I have a HR2510 that has a switchable 'ping'
mode. Don't use it much though.

 RW>>> oTherwise, I'm hanging out doing vhf or uhf ham, and maybe some
 RW>>> other general snooping.

 Roy>>> My friend Monty lived at the base of Mt Soledad in his mother's
 Roy>>> garage. He formed a VHF and then a UHF group that I joined later.
 Roy>>> Most of the other kids around at the time were teenagers with lots
 Roy>>> of radio knowlege. Many of them made a career out of radio and
 Roy>>> have their own VHF and UHF repeaters, better known as the DR0NK
 Roy>>> radio group. Most of them are/were partiers and drunks, so the DR0
 Roy>>> call sign sort of works for them...

 RW>> I"ve heard of that.  Got my exposure to radio at school for
 RW>> the blind.  There's one electrical engineer works for the
 RW>> feds now out of that bunch,

 Roy>> Dunno who that is.

 RW> Probably not.  Had heard of the dr0nk crew though somewhere, soudns
 RW> familair.

At one time, their system linked all the way into west Texas...Dunno if
that's true today.

 RW>> Rick Olsen, N6NR worked for AT&T for a long time. He's living in
 RW>> Washington or Oregon now. He predicted and it came to be, long
 RW>> before a lot of people knew they even existed, that cell phones
 RW>> would be the future. He was/is one smart cookie...

 RW> Right, these guys were in the midwest.  Oen migrated from
 RW> Collins to At&T when it was all still one big conglomerate,
 RW> he worked for their NOrthwestern Bell arm after leaving
 RW> Bell Labs.

He also worked for Pacific Bell, in San Diego...


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