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Skriven 2012-06-30 07:56:00 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 30346 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
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29 Jun 12 16:07, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:


 ml>>> you'll have to be more specific... what's wrong with the BINK.TXT
 ml>>> file that is hatched every week?

 ml>> oops... "... BINKD.TXT file ..."

 RW>> Does it include the zn.*.fidonet.org BS that is unusable in other
 RW>> Bink software?

 ml> hunh? f.n.z.FQDN is a standard in fidonet and FTN networks...

Coulda fooled me! f.n.z.@fidonet.net?

That no longer works in IREX because the fidonet.? no longer exists. It's
been replaced by something else.

Irex can read the nodelist and enter the nodes f.n.z. address if it sees a
IBN flag.

But, because it is abandoned software and hard coded to read and then
enter the BS f.n.z@fidonet.? it can't know that this is how it's been for
the last few years.

 ml> it has been since back in the day when there was the system(s) known
 ml> as the "fidonet to internet gateway"... FQDN can be anything for the
 ml> FTN network in question as long as there is a resolver on the
 ml> internet for that domain... fidonet.org was the original and is now
 ml> only used for a fidonet web site... fidonet.net was used for this dns
 ml> resolving purpose until it was lost due to various problems... now
 ml> binkp.net has been set up and replaces fidonet.net...

So, Irex finds that BS and installs it into it's configs...the sysop has
to remove that crapola and read the nodelist's IBN address so that Irex
will know to look up the DNS of that node. Not something hard to do, just
an annoyance.

 ml> other than that, i'm not sure but i think you are talking about
 ml> software that is hardcoded to use the lost domain?? if so, this file
 ml> won't help at all...

Right, it'd be a hinderance.

 ml> one should also remember that FTN domains do not have dots in them in
 ml> the same way that lansatic, novell, and microsoft domains do not have
 ml> dots indicating any hierarchy... your mailer should allow for
 ml> translation from a FTN domain to an internet hierarchical domain but,
 ml> again, if that is hardcoded, then someone is SOL... how did they ever
 ml> participate in any other FTN othernets with internet domains? were
 ml> those also hardcoded?? 8-\

Not sure how they would have dealt with it, other than as many of IREX
users do with 'read' and 'enter' the DNS from a nodelist to where the
software can 'lookup' the IP and connect there.

 ml> #root-domain fidonet.net
 ml> root-domain binkp.net
 ml> domain fidonet x:\\bink\\outbound 1
 ml> domain foobar x:\\bink\\outbound 1
 ml> domain fido alias-for fidonet
 ml> domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet
 ml> domain fidonet.net alias-for fidonet
 ml> domain foobar.net alias-for foobar

 ml> and then all the addresses are specified as 1:3634/12@fidonet... that
 ml> will get converted to f12.n3634.z1.binkp.net for the dns lookup based
 ml> on the above definitions...

That won't work in Irex...if f12.n3634.z1.fidonet.net wasn't hard-coded,
it might work.

 ml> software that doesn't do this or allow for this can be considered to
 ml> be seriously broken and definitely inoperable for use with FTN
 ml> othernets since there is no way to specify their internet-side
 ml> domain...

Not really. Irex works just as it did before, but all the sysop has to do
is read the nodelist and correct the z.n.f. and enter a DNS
(lone-star.dyndns.org) or if it's a dynamic listing, xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
and a :port, if the listing doesn't use the standard Bink port...

Did I ever tell you that I hate comma delimited text files that require a
genius to read and write? With a passion, which is why I don't use FD or
Binkd...ancient software like FD was frustrating enough, so was some of
the other comma delimited software, but this is the modern age where
ancient software that uses those text based files should be put in their
proper place, the bit-bucket.


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