Text 5185, 122 rader
Skriven 2010-02-23 09:49:18 av Joe Delahaye (104003.fidonews)
   Kommentar till text 5153 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
Ärende: Using An Alias 3
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  Re: Using An Alias 3
  By: Lee Lofaso to Joe Delahaye on Mon Feb 22 2010 16:47:00

 > JD>Using real names in Fido has been a fact of life since forever.
 >
 > It is time such use become a thing of the past.

I dont think so.  Using an alias makes it that much easier for a person to make
a nuisance of himself, knowing full well that nobody can get back at him
because they dont know who he is.

 >
 > JD>Some echoes permitted the use of aliasses, but most did not.
 >
 > The use of aliases should be allowed for all participants, in
 > every echo.

See above.  However, moderators have made allowances for some people in the
past, and most likely continue to do so.  As I said, pick a real sounding name,
and the issue is moot.

 >
 > The use of aliases should not be limited to sysops and moderators.
 >
 > JD>The question is not so much the use of an alias, but the use
 > JD>of an obvious alias.
 >
 > The issue is not the use of an "obvious alias", but rather
 > that of allowing all participants the right to protect themselves
 > from harm.

Now turn that around, as I stated up above.  What harm BTW?  other then
harrassment that could come from a person using an alias that is not obvious.
I have used my real name since I joined Fido.  I have never had a problem.

 > JD>Some people use alias without a problem simply by picking a real
 > JD>sound first and last name alias.
 >
 > All participants should be allowed to use the alias of their choice
 > (within reason).  While it would be fair/reasonable for a moderator to
 > deny a participant from using an alias such as "Fuck You", it would not
 > be fair/reasonable for a moderator to deny a participant from using an
 > alias such as "Freejack".

Sysops BTW, also need to use real names, (or real sounding names) in the
nodelist.  They too are subject to a moderator's rules.

 >
 > The question is not what fido is, but rather what rights/privileges
 > participants should have in order to protect themselves from harm.
 > My position is very simple.  All participants, including sysops and
 > moderators, should have the right/privilege to conceal their real
 > names when posting messages.  As it is right now, only sysops and
 > moderators have that right/privilege.  And Bjorn Felten wants to
 > deny that right/privilege to sysops/moderators/participants in this
 > forum.  Without ever giving sound reason as to why.
 >

Since Fido is international, that obvious reference to your contstitution does
not apply.

 >
 > Sysops and moderators have the right/privilege to protect themselves
 > from harm by using an alias.  However, fido consists of more than sysops
 > and moderators.  And it is absolutely essential that ALL participants
 > have the right/privilege to protect themselves from harm by having
 > the right/privilege to conceal their real names in posting messages.

If there is the danger of that, they can ask for the right to use an alias, and
it will usually not be denied.

 >
 > Bjorn Felten has a very prejudiced point of view in regards to the use
 > of an alias.  He is not in step with the times.  I am not calling Bjorn
 > a bad person.  Only misinformed and/or misguided.
 >

I dont think so.


 > It is easily understood why sysops and moderators are allowed to use
 > an alias in each and every echo.  It is also easily understood why all
 > participants, including those participants who are neither sysops nor
 > moderators, should be allowed to use an alias in each and every echo.
 > Since it is so obvious to the fido powers that be that ALL participants
 > should be allowed to use an alias in each and every echo, ask yourself
 > why those same powers that be refuse to grant that privilege to each
 > and every participant in fido.


Again, where does it say that sysops and moderators are allowed the use of an
alias?

 >
 > It could be the powers that be are ignorant.
 > It could be the powers that be are stupid.
 > It could be the powers that be do not give a damn.
 >
 > But the facts remain the same.
 >
 > Would you place a sign on your ass saying "Kick Me"?  Of course not.
 > If I told you to place such a sign on your ass in order to have the
 > privilege of posting messages in fido, would you do it?  Of course
 > not.  Unless you are a complete and total idiot.  In which case you
 > would deserve getting your ass kicked by every loon in the known
 > universe.
 >
Are the black helicopters hovering over your place?


 > One participant in this forum has been playing a game, by using
 > a very creative alias.  That participant is a clinical psychiatrist.
 > His alias is pseudonym, taken from an anagram.  An anagram of a dog.
 > Here is the anagram of his pseudonym -
 >
 > WEIRD SHY CANINE
 >
 > I'll let you (and Ross Cassell) figure out who that individual is.
 >
Who cares?  If it is a real sounding name, nobody wil ever know.
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