Text 5745, 92 rader
Skriven 2010-03-09 17:16:04 av Stewart Arnett (3:772/100)
   Kommentar till text 5708 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
Ärende: Using An Alias 4
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Hello Lee.

07 Mar 10 22:27, you wrote to me:

 LL> Hello Stewart,

 >>SA> Obey the rules of the echo as laid down by the Moderator,
 >>SA> understanding that the Moderator's ruling is final.

 >>LL> Fidonetters PARTICIPATE!  That's what Fidonetters do!  Of course,
 >>LL> the Moderator is also welcome to participate, if he/she so
 >>LL> desires. After all, we are *all* Fidonetters, and that is what
 >>LL> Fidonetters do!

 SA>> And in that participation they follow the rules of the echo
 SA>> as laid down by the owner of that echo, the "moderator".

 LL> The issue is, should all participants have the right/privilege to
 LL> use an alias/handle when posting messages?  Not if this, if that.
 LL> Either all participants should have the right/privilege to use an
 LL> alias/handle when posting messages, or not.

Not on my board they don't, real names only is policy here, use an alias and
you're out of it toot-sweet. I am not having a user get me shut out of Fidonet.

 SA>> If those rule say "no alias" then using one is not allowed.

 LL> Such "real names only" rules are anti-democratic and should
 LL> be done away with.

Not on my board, I rule that is it.

 SA>> That is not a Fidonet policy but common courtesy of the
 SA>> echo you are using.

 LL> Common courtesy is not a one-way street.  Common courtesy is
 LL> exactly what the term implies.  Common to all.  And that means
 LL> sysops, moderators, and participants.

Common courtesy is abiding by the rules.

 >>SA> PS To answer another question you asked, "what can a sysop do?"
 >>SA> in your case if you were getting this echo from me, then I would
 >>SA> simply turn it off and force you elsewhere.

 >>LL> All sysops are also welcome to participate.  Not just moderators.
 >>LL> Didn't mean to leave them out.  I mean, sysops are also
 >>LL> Fidonetters. My sincerest apologies for having offended thy most
 >>LL> holy sysop. :)

Without sysops users wouldn't participate, you have to apply by the rules or go
elsewhere. End of story, my system has rules of use, users follow them.

 SA>> On my system I own the system, if I don't want you then there is
 SA>> nothing you can do about it, you do not enter.

 LL> The issue is should all participants have the right/privilege
 LL> to use an alias/handle when posting messages.  Not what you or
 LL> any other sysop chooses to do with his/her system.

Read above.

 LL> [..]

 >>LL> Only a moron would believe otherwise.  And I do not take you, or
 >>LL> anybody else, as being a moron.

Read above regarding rules of use.

 SA>> The real fact is nothing more than manners, you come into
 SA>> my house and don't like the way I live then leave. You go
 SA>> into an echo and don't like the way the moderator runs it,
 SA>> then leave. Same thing, no argument.

 LL> That has absolutely nothing to do with the issue.  Should all
 LL> participants have the right/privilege to use an alias/handle when
 LL> posting messages?  Yes, or No?

No.


 SA>> Then go to an echo where an alias is allowed to be used.

 LL> That would be each and every echo in fido.

Sorry but it isn't and that is final.


Stewart

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