Text 6487, 62 rader
Skriven 2010-03-31 06:53:06 av Bob Ackley (1:300/3)
   Kommentar till text 6453 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: The police, your friend and helper
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Replying to a message of Robert Bashe to Michiel van der Vlist:

 RB> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Robert Bashe on Tuesday March
 RB> 30 2010 at 10:51:

 BA>>>>> In this country, Roy is correct. The police are presumed
 BA>>>>> to be telling the truth. Unfortunately, the fact of the
 BA>>>>> matter is that often this is not the case, and police
 BA>>>>> will do literally anything to cover up a bad bust.

 MV>>>> So why do you put up with that?

 RB>>> So how do you propose eliminating it - not
 RB>>> "theoretically", but in concrete terms? Remember, this
 RB>>> kind of thing happens here too.

 MV>> Fire the lying cops. That is what happens here.

 RB> Either you're joking or you're very far from reality indeed.

 RB> First: _find_ and convict the lying cops (aou're always the
 RB> one who wants a full-blown trial to determine guilt, aren't
 RB> you?). Assuming the lies even become evident, which is
 RB> often not the case.

 RB> Then: naturally such lies cause unjust convictions, so the
 RB> convicted have to be freed and/or their fines returned.

 RB> Then: naturally the lying cops have to be prosecuted, as
 RB> they have committed perjury in office, which is a crime. So
 RB> then they have to be tried and convicted again.

 RB> All of the above with the help of colleagues and partners
 RB> who may have had to rely on the "lying cops" to cover them
 RB> in a dangerous situation, and may have to do that again in
 RB> the future if the "lying cops" are not convicted and
 RB> removed.

 RB> I'm sure you realize you don't want a partner behind you
 RB> with a loaded gun in a shootout against whom you testified
 RB> in a trial - accidents happen in such situations, and who
 RB> wants to be shot by "friendly fire"?

 RB> Get real. The police do what they can, but this is something
 RB> that has existed and will continue to exist for as long as
 RB> there are police. There are no simple solutions, certainly
 RB> nothing as simple as "fire the lying cops".

Ever since the cops were caught beating the sh*t out of Rodney King several
years
ago, when the cops find themselves in a potentially abusive situation they
start looking
around for video cameras - and when they find one they confiscate it as
'evidence' -
of course that 'evidence' never sees the light of day and the owner is lucky if
s/he ever
sees his/her video camera again.  Presumably they also look for and confiscate
cell phone
cameras now.

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