Text 7606, 117 rader
Skriven 2010-05-06 19:15:27 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
   Kommentar till text 7585 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Belgium
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06 May 10 11:29, Robert Bashe wrote to Roy Witt:

 RB>>> But people are apparently waking up to the fact that Europe is in
 RB>>> danger of losing it's own cultural heritage because of excessive
 RB>>> tolerance for the customs of immigrants.

 RW>> I don't know how that could happen. First, you would have to have at
 RW>> least 35-50% of the muslim population to make their religion
 RW>> dominant.

 RB> A religion (or culture) doesn't have to be "dominant" to affect a
 RB> society. All it has to do is _aggressively_ pursue its aims.

You mean like the faggots have done in the name of, well, faggotry. Yell
discrimination loud and long enough and you will be heard. However, that
won't stop intolerance or discrimination. Instead, the government has to
pass legislation to make it a crime to discriminate. Just like Europe.

 RB> Look at the percentage of muslims in the States and the fear of
 RB> offending them because they have a reputation for violence.

The Arabs I knew in San Diego were Iraqi and Lebonese xtians. At the time
of 9/11, muslims lived in the same community where we lived, but no one
even knew they were there, until after 9/11. Even then, after finding out
that one of them housed several members of the hi-jack teams, they were
left to their own devices. Investigated by law enforcement, but nothing
more.

 RB> That is also the case in Europe, but here in Europe we're closer to
 RB> the source and have higher percentages of muslims in the societies.
 RB> The non-muslim "man in the street" doesn't particularly care for that
 RB> situation, to put things mildly.

Too bad. He should address his greviences to his government, who allowed
their migration. We do that until we're blue in the face over the Mexican
invasion, but to no avail. Now that Arizona has passed a law forcing the
government's hand, they're going to do something about it.

 RB> Another point is that Islam isn't merely a religion: it also involves
 RB> politics and law (remember the Sharia?), and as such is not as
 RB> distanced from worldly affairs as modern Christianity or Judaism.

I don't like the fact that I'm a minority among the population of
Texas, Whites vs Mexicans, but we'll go about fixing the problem
peacefully.

 RW>> All the christian and jews can still be the dominate religion now,
 RW>> with a bunch of muslims in their midst, each enjoying their own
 RW>> style of religion.

 RB> Like the people who organized 9/11, those who practice "honor"
 RB> killings and the like? In an ideal world, you'd be right - but we
 RB> don't live in an ideal world.

You now have the ideal opportunity to make it so.

 RB>>> Tolerance is good, but too much tolerance can mean cultural
 RB>>> suicide. America didn't acquire it's "melting pot" nickname by
 RB>>> allowing ghettos of different cultures to persist indefinitely,
 RB>>> without any

 RB>>> effort at assimilation, but by demanding at least the public part
 RB>>> of assimilation from everyone (what people do in their own homes is
 RB>>> their business alone, assuming no criminal activities).

 RW>> You must really be blinded by the forrest around you. The Jews are
 RW>> allowed to walk among you with their scraggly beards, long unkempt
 RW>> hair, black derby hat and clothes, which is part of their religion.
 RW>> Why aren't y'all discriminating against them, Mr Halocaust?

 RB> The last comment was uncalled for and rather stupid. I thought this
 RB> was supposed to be a discussion.

It is...discrimination is still discrimination, no matter whether the
subject is a Jew or a Muslim. If you discriminate against one, you might
as well go back to the Nazi era and get it right this time.

 RB> But the reason nobody (or almost nobody) objects to such orthodox
 RB> jews is because there are so few of them,

And we both know why...

 RB> and they make no attempt to force the rest of us to dress and believe
 RB> as they do.

Muslims force you to wear burkahs? Unbelievable.

 RB> Just imagine what would happen if they would organize terrorist
 RB> attacks on the rest of the population because of the mainstream
 RB> population's "immorality" and a perceived sense of "persecution".

We've already been there and done that. Remember the civil war and what
led up to it? Besides the economics, of course.

 RB>>> Excessive tolerance only came to America in the wake of the Cuban
 RB>>> revolution, and the result is that in southern Florida, there are
 RB>>> places where more Spanish than English is spoken nowadays. That
 RB>>> would have been impossible in the "old" USA of "melting pot" days.

 RW>> Depends. In the German community where I grew up, German was still
 RW>> spoken by a lot of people. In 'little italy' down the road a ways,
 RW>> the Italians spoke a lot of wop...

 RB> And once they left the community - or even inside the community, but
 RB> in contacts with the outside world, they spoke and speak English. It
 RB> was either that or nothing.

As they learned to assimilate themselves into American society, yes.
However, here it took them over 130 years to accomplish that. Does that
make Germans really slow upstairs or does that speak for their lack of
tenacity in making changes?

                R\%/itt

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