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Skriven 2010-06-05 23:35:04 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Robert Bashe
Ärende: Re: Cellphone woes (was:
================================
 -=> On 06-05-10  09:13,  Robert Bashe <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Cellphone woes (was: Barg <=-

 DS> My cell phone will not do any of that -- but then it is never turned
 DS> on except in rare occasions and only costs me about $95 per year.

 RB> That much? I have several cellphones - don't use them 
 RB> except rarely, as the connections are _much_ more expensive 
 RB> than fixed-line ones - and have never paid more than EUR 50 
 RB> for one.

I am not talking about the price of the physical phone.  That cost at
most $20, or it might have been free -- don't remember.

 RB> Then I use a prepaid SIM card, which costs (using
 RB> a discounter) EUR 5 here and carries EUR 5 of phoning 
 RB> balance, so the card is essentially free. The card can be 
 RB> used for one year without adding money, and even then I can 
 RB> add only EUR 5 to get another full year of service.

 RB> Your $95 yearly thus seems very expensive to me.

Obviously a different system, if we are talking about the same expenses.
I wish that I could buy a 30 minute card good for a year -- but that is
not offered.

 RB> But the American system, where the _receiver_ of a 
 RB> cellphone call pays the bill, also seems pretty 
 RB> disadventageous to me too (Who can control the people who 
 RB> call him and prevent someone from just calling again and 
 RB> again to run up the receiver's bill?) - and can be quite a 
 RB> ripoff if you call someone in the States with a European 
 RB> cellphone: as the caller, you pay the bill in Europe. But 
 RB> the receiver in the States _also_ pays the bill, as that's 
 RB> the custom there. So the call gets paid twice.

All cell phone calls in the US are charged by the minute to each cell
phone.

 DS> I don't believe in cell phones that do all that stuff.

 RB> The cellphones don't do it, the infrastructure does. This business
 RB> started in  Finnland, where you can meanwhile make all sorts of 
 RB> micropayments using a cellphone. I don't care for it 
 RB> either, because of the data you spread around in the 
 RB> process, but many people place more value on convenience 
 RB> than privacy.

I still don't know how you do that payment.  I have seen phones that do
lots of stuff -- surf the web, take pictures, download files, etc.  I
have no use for such things.  All I will ever want to do is an
occasional voice call. How does one pay a parking meter with that?

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) comcast (dot) net
                              (1:261/1466)



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