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Skriven 2010-06-06 16:26:32 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
   Kommentar till text 8133 av David Drummond (3:640/384)
Ärende: Hidey, hidey (was: Bargeld lacht)
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David Drummond wrote to Robert Bashe on Sunday June 06 2010 at 07:52:

DD>>> Who needs cash any more - we do everything else electronically, why
DD>>> not our spending?

RB>> That may apply to you, but it certainly doesn't apply to everyone.
RB>> Some have problems with the "transparent citizen" and want to
RB>> preserve what little private sphere they can.

DD> What do you wish to hide?

If I told you it wouldn't be a secret.

DD>>> Of course it makes it harder to hide cash flow from the IRS - but
DD>>> that should only worry dishonest people.

RB>> This kind of polemics is also being used in Sweden to push the
RB>> development: "Only criminals and dishonest people use cash". What a
RB>> bunch of crap.

DD> If you have nothing to hide, what is the problem?

Who has nothing to hide?

RB>> But if you think this way, you'll have no problem scanning your
RB>> paycheck stubs, credit card statements and latest tax statement and
RB>> uploading them to the Internet where we can all take a look. After
RB>> all, if you have nothing to hide, there's no problem - right?

DD> I don't get pay checks - my salary is paid direct to my bank account -
DD> yes, my employer knows my bank/account number.

OK, then publish your last bank account statement, together with the account
number and your PIN. You've got nothing to hide, right?

DD> I don't get credit card statements - I don't have a credit card.

Obviously a subversive. I had a lab assistant like that one time. They made him
pay cash in advance at the hotel when we visited a company base in New York.

DD> I do have a debit card but the bank doesn't send statements, I view
DD> the transaction records online.

Sp copy them and publish them here. Again, you have nothing to hide...

DD> I also complete my annual tax return on my computer and submit it
DD> online. I do not even have a printer connected to my computer here at
DD> home - I print nothing.

;-) As if it depended on printing. But OK, just make a copy and place it
online. Surely you have nothing against that.

DD> While I could publish my bank account details here, without the access
DD> security PINs etc you wouldn't be able to view the data.

That's cheating. Obviously you _do_ have something to hide.

DD> I could also publish the security PINs etc but I suspect that someone
DD> who read them would log into my account and set up direct transfers of
DD> the funds to other (electronic) locations.

Sure, that's why you have something to hide.

DD> In other words, I trust the Australian Government more than I do the
DD> collective readers of Internet. I have no objections to my bank or the
DD> Aussie Government knowing where I spend my money, or who is paying it
DD> to me.

Governments _love_ people like you, David. Or should I write "sheeple"? I, on
the other hand, don't trust governments as far as I can throw them - and over
the last 60 years or so have not done badly for myself.

Cheers, Bob

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