Text 9097, 82 rader
Skriven 2010-07-09 11:14:10 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
   Kommentar till text 9001 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: LEO the lion (was: Important message from the moderator)
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08 Jul 10 23:40, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

 MvdV>>> Upon which the shopkeeper will ask for an ID that shows the
 MvdV>>> inquisitor has Law enforcement authority. If that is not
 MvdV>>> forthcoming, the shopkeeper will tellhim to take a hike.

 RW>> You put too much faith in the shop keeper. When offered some cash
 RW>> for a look at the bill he spent there. No one needs to have or offer
 RW>> a badge to get that information, just cash.

 MvdV> You put to much faith in american corruptive investigation methods
 MvdV> to work in the rest of the world. Accepting bribes is illegal in
 MvdV> The Netherlands. That may not stop the shop keeper, but then agian
 MvdV> it may lead him to tip the loval authorities.

That's a chance a good detective might take. It's illegal to offer bribes
here as well, but that doesn't negate the fact that they occur. I suspect
that even a Dutchman would be capable of the same.

 MvdV>>> A bank. And so the bank will ask for a court order to break
 MvdV>>> client confidentiality.

 RW>> No problem. Banks are willing LEO partners when it comes to wire
 RW>> fraud.

 MvdV> Not in The Netherlands. Especially since "wire fraud" is not in the
 MvdV> book of criminal las in The Netharlands.

So much for progressive countries.

 RW>>>> He excepted $10k in cash

 MvdV>>> In a hotel room in Aruba. Illegally recorded.

 RW>> Wrong. Legally recorded with the cooperation of the Aruban
 RW>> authorities.

 MvdV> Mo way. See previous message.

Way.

 MvdV>>> The record of the transaction does not prove something illegal
 MvdV>>> took place.

 RW>> That record is circumstantial evidence in building the case for wire
 RW>> fraud.

 MvdV> Wire fraud is not in the Dutch book pf criminal law.

I'll bet there is something similar. It seems that Euros are as crooked as
the states when it comes to it.

"French Court Hands Noriega A 7-Year Prison Term

Paris -- A Paris court has convicted aging former Panamanian dictator
Manuel Noriega of laundering drug money in France and orderd him to spend
seven years behind bars -- a decision that left friends and foes worried
he might die in a prison far from home. (kinda reminds one of the van der
Sloot)

Wednesday's sentence in France, where Noriega was extradited 10 weeks ago,
came on top of his two decades in a US prison. The court said there was
enough evidence to establish that the equivalent millions of euros that
flowed through Noriega's French bank accounts in the late 1980s were
kickbacks from drug traffickers."

So much for personal banking information kept from the government in
Europe and so much for the non-extradition idea purported here.

 RW>> Posession of an amount as large as $15,000 paid to someone who
 RW>> has a history of suspected criminal offenses would generate a lot
 RW>> of un-answerable questions.

 MvdV> Posession of $15000 in cash is not a criminal offence.

Apparently it is, see above.

                R\%/itt

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