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Skriven 2010-07-21 14:42:08 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
   Kommentar till text 9341 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555.1)
Ärende: Extortion?
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18 Jul 10 15:05, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

 MvdV> Roy Witt wrote to Michiel van der Vlist on Saturday July 17 2010 at
 MvdV> 18:30:

 MvdV>>> For all intents and purposes there is no Holloway case. In
 MvdV>>> theory the investigation is still open, in practise it is
 MvdV>>> shelved as a cold case, not to be reopened unless new evidence
 MvdV>>> surfaces. No evidence, no body -> no case.

 RW>> Wrong again, but you already knew that.

 MvdV> Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh well. It's your river.

 RW>>>> His offer to reveal the whereabouts of Holloway for $250,000,
 RW>>>> even though false still makes a case against him.

 MvdV>>> Only whe he is under US jurisdiction. Which he is not at
 MvdV>>> present.

 RW>> A crime in Aruba as well.

 MvdV> Wrong again. But you already knew that.

Cry in your river.

 MvdV>>> And the suckers that coughed up the money fell for it. Well, if
 MvdV>>> they are that gullible... I have a bridge for sale. Give me EUR
 MvdV>>> 100 and I will tell you where it is, so that you can see for
 MvdV>>> yourself...

 RW>> But I'm not interested in your bridge, thus I don't care where it
 RW>> is.
 RW>> :o)

 MvdV> Ok, so give me EUR 100 and I will not tell you where it is.

Tell me where it is and if I find it there, I'll give you 100 EUR...

 MvdV>>> Fact is that if the FBI had not given him the money, Stephanie
 MvdV>>> Flores would not be dead.

 RW>> Fact is, if the Arubans had done their job correctly, he wouldn't
 RW>> have been loose to bother anybody again.

 MvdV> The Arubans did a fine job. Contrary to what seems to be normal in
 MvdV> the US, the Dutch and Aruban legal systems do not operate on a "Roy
 MvdV> Witt believes him to be guilty, so let's get him" basis.

If they didn't think he was guilty, why would they bother to detain him
and do an investigation at all?

 MvdV> They investigated the case. Several people were held for
 MvdV> questioning. No evidence of foul play emerged and so all those in
 MvdV> custody were released. That is how things are done in a civilised
 MvdV> country.

Except for the fact that they still claim that he's the prime suspect in
that case. Now that he's killed again, they're rethinking their case
again.

 RW>>>> Fact is, dipshit confessed to the murder of Stephanie Flores

 MvdV>>> Wrong. What he confessed to is having killed her in a fit of
 MvdV>>> rage. That is manslaughter, not murder.

 RW>> Not according to the Peruvians. That's why the charged him with
 RW>> murder, not manslaughter.

 MvdV> No, they charged him with murder because they did not believe his
 MvdV> confession.

LOL! He made the confession after he was arrested for murder. He then
denied the confession, thinking he could get out of this dilemma. Wasn't
he surprised when the Peruvian judge denied his request to drop the
confession?

 MvdV> They believed he did more than just kill her in a fit
 MvdV> of rage.

Of course. Her body was so mutulated that they figured only a nutcase
would beat someone beyond what it would take to kill them.

 RW>>>> Never the less, that's how it occured.

 MvdV>>> So you say, but you provide no non US source to back it up.

 RW>> Would you be able to understand it if written in Spanish? Spanish
 RW>> as in a Peruvian version. Doubtful.

 MvdV> What would the Peruvians know about what transpired on Aruba?

That wasn't the question. You asked what non-US source there was to back
up what I said. My reply was one that you couldn't read the source if I
provided it to you.

 RW>>>> The Arubans are telling the same story.

 MvdV>>> Source?

 RW>> I'm sure you won't have a problem finding this info; afterall it has
 RW>> to be in Dutch before it is converted into English.

 MvdV> IOW you can not give a source.

I can, but will not...you can find it yourself with a little searching.
Kinda like the reply you give me when I ask you to show me your source for
things I may or may no have said right here.

 RW>>>> Except that he admitted giving false info on the Holloway body.

 MvdV>>> He is known to be a pathological liar. His statements add
 MvdV>>> nothing to the already known facts.

 RW>> You don't know that. Somewhere in his statements he will have
 RW>> slipped up. One cannot continue to tell lies and keep them straight
 RW>> in their own head, but they can be recorded and analyzed for fact vs
 RW>> fiction.

 MvdV> You would never know what is true and what is false.

I don't think you understand English as well has you claim. Read the above
and explain it to me.

 MvdV> You'd need independent evidence to tell. But if you have that, you
 MvdV> do not need JvdS' tales.

Which is why he's still on trial for murder in Peru.

 RW>> However, if convicted in the U.S. for Holloway's murder, he could
 RW>> face life in prison -- something that gives U.S. officials the edge
 RW>> right now.

 MvdV> For that he would first have to be extradited to the US.

Yeup...in less than 15 years that will happen.

 MvdV> Not going
 MvdV> to happen because whatever happened to Holloway, it happened on
 MvdV> Aruba, not in the US.

Will happen because his victim is an American. If the Arubans won't
prosecute him, the US will.

 MvdV> The US has no jurisdiction. No country will
 MvdV> extradite to the US for a crime that happened on Aruba.

Watch and see.

 RW>>>>  van der Sloots confession in Peru and the US indictment won't
 RW>>>> involve nor embarrass the Arubans anymore.

 MvdV>>> It will when the Peruvians send him to Aruba or The Netherlands
 MvdV>>> to sit out his sentence there.

 RW>> Won't happen.

 MvdV> Denial is not a river in Egypt.

It's your river.

                R\%/itt

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