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Skriven 2010-07-26 21:26:44 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
   Kommentar till text 9470 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
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 MvdV>> I see absolutely no reason to invest time and energy in
 MvdV>> attemting to block tor exit nodes.

 ml> you just don't know where to look, then...

 MvdV> Right, I do not know how to do it. I suppose I can find out if I
 MvdV> want to, but I have better things to do. When I was young, I
 MvdV> would delve into anything that came my way. Now that I am not so
 MvdV> young any more, I realise that I will never have enough time to
 MvdV> delve into everything, so I have to make choices. I do not see
 MvdV> users entering my system via tor as a security risk and you have
 MvdV> told me nothing to change my mind, so I will let this cup pass.

i'm NOT trying to change your mind or even to get you to see them as a security
risk to you or your computers... i don't have a clue where you got that idea
from... i never stated such and i have never attempted to sway you in this
manner...

 ml> it is also very possible that you don't offer anything that they
 ml> want... i guess i do

 MvdV> Or maybe there is totally different reason why you get so many
 MvdV> attacks. I already mentioned big fences attracting thieves. Or
 MvdV> maybe you should spend a few more bucks and get you own domain
 MvdV> and a DNS provider that can give you (d)dns services on your own
 MvdV> domain. Maybe it is a leak at dynip.... 

it would be exactly the same... this is normal stuff that happens on the
internet all the time... i just happen to be talking about it in here... we
won't even mention what much larger sites do to protect themselves from this
type of traffic but i can assure you that we, they and i, use many of the same
tools... where do you think i learned about them? ;)

 ml> because they are blocked all day long every day and my network 
 ml> traffic is no where near as high as it used to be before i 
 ml> implemented the procedures i currently use ;)

 ml> when you and bob actually learn something about security protocols,
 ml> the attack methods being used and you are actively dealing with such,
 ml> then come back and we may talk about it again... maybe... maybe not...

 MvdV> Probably not. I am trained to do my own research.

then do it and don't question me about what i do and why i do it... i only
stated that i do such and such and then you and robert start coming back at me
how you don't think that i can do this and that it isn't feasible and so on...
well, you're very wrong and i'm not the only one doing this either...

 MvdV> If and when the subjects you mention float to the top of my list 
 MvdV> of priorities, I will deal with it without your help. Until then 
 MvdV> I have better things to do. So thanks but no thanks. 

i wasn't offering you any help... i told you that we /might/ talk about it... 

 ml> as a friend of mine once stated, "I'm in security. I have a right to
 ml> be paranoid and protect my systems and infrastructure in any way I see
 ml> fit." ;)

 MvdV> Everyone has a right to be paranoid. But "wanting to know who
 MvdV> uses my system" is no really a reason. 

sure it is...

 MvdV> You haven't told us /why/ you want to know that.

yes i have... i'll say it again... because this is MY HOUSE and MY EQUIPMENT
and, to be quite blunt about it, because I WANT TO KNOW, period! is that clear
enough for you now?

 MvdV> You also have not told us why you consider knowing the user's IP 
 MvdV> as "knowing who it is".

it is enough for me and that's all that matters ;)

 MvdV> An ordinary citizen can in most cases not trace it back to a 
 MvdV> name and a street address.

i have access to plenty of that if i want or need it for some reason...

 MvdV> But then again, you don't need a reason. As you say, it is your
 MvdV> system. So good luck with it.

that's too funny... really...

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