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Skriven 2013-08-29 13:17:55 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Ulrich Schroeter (2:244/1120)
Ärende: Internet access - Fidonet Policy thoughts ....
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Hello Ulrich,

On Thursday August 29 2013 05:42, you wrote to me:

 MV>> Apart from the impossibility of changing P4,

 US> p407, 8.1 isn't a blocker as all ZC's accepts the proposal to move
 US> forward with the voting mechanism

The last time it was tried it already failed at the first step: getting a
majority of the RC's to say "yes". Six month work for some two dozen people -
me included - to come to consensus about some very simple changes and it failed
right at the first hurdle.

And now that there is no IC, it will be even more difficult. You assume that a
unanimous decision by the ZC's take the place of a decision by the IC, but I am
sure not everyone will agree on that.

Sorry Uli, I know when I have lost. I know the theory of changing P4, and I
also know that in practise it is impossible. It has been tried many times and
it has always failed. If you want to try again, go ahead, but count me out. I
have better things to do than to waste my precious time on a mission
impossible.

 US> 51% of all votes will bring the proposal POLICY to effect

You conveniently skip a number of steps....

 MV>>  a complete (physical) restructure of Fidonet is suicide.

 MV>>  In Dutch we have a saying: "je moet
 MV>> oude bomen niet verplanten". I think that applies to Fidonet.

 US> old fidonet still works together with the last big change -> FoIP

It barely survived that change. And we are down to less than 5% of what we ever
were. We are hovering near critical mass. Fidonet will not survive another
radical change.


Cheers, Michiel

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