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Skriven 2013-09-01 15:39:32 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 10133 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
Ärende: USAian's strange take on their constitution
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 Brer Lee Lofaso wrote to Brer Björn Felten about USAian's strange take on
their constitution:

 LL> Hello Björn,

 LL>>> The President of the United States takes an oath to "protect and
 LL>>> defend" the US Constitution. He is the only (elected or appointed)
 LL>>> federal official to do so. All other federal officials (elected or
 LL>>> appointed) merely take an oath to "uphold" the US Constitution.

 BF>> As far as my googling has ended me, the above is true.

Stupid is as stupid says, I always say.

 LL> The US Constitution contains one oath of office, and one oath of
 LL> office only - an oath of office for the president.

It does? Section please.


Here  is what the Constitution provides for by law.

 3331 - Oath of office

    US Code, Title 5, Part III, Subpart B, Chapter 33:

"An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of
honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the
following oath: "I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support
and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,
foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the
same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation
or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the
duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

This section does not affect other oaths required by law.

 LL>   For all other (federal) government officials, INCLUDING MEMBERS OF
 LL> CONGRESS, the only thing the US Constitution specifies is that they
 LL> "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support the Constitution."

Actually, the Congressional oath is prescribed by law:

At the start of each new Congress, the entire House of Representatives and
one-third of the Senate are sworn into office.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I
take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of
evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the
office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

Federal employees take the same oath of office as Congress, by which they
swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of
America.

But we regress. You claimed that no one but the President swears to uphold
or defend the Constitution, which is a bald faced lie.

 LL> every individual take an oath of office?  Or should it be proclaimed
 LL> en masse?  Hmmm.  The US Constitution does not say ...

Read it again, it actually spells out who will take the Oath of office,
which is defined by US Code.

 BF>> But, alas, they only know what their mainstream media tells them in
 BF>> the "News Shows" they happen to prefer.

 LL> If the Framers of the Constitution had intended for all federal
 LL> officials to take the same oath of office, or a specific oath of
 LL> office, that oath of office would have been included in the US
 LL> Constitution.

Not necessarily; in 1789, the 1st United States Congress created a
fourteen-word oath to fulfill the constitutional requirement:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of
the United States."

It also passed the Judiciary Act of 1789, which established an additional
oath taken by federal judges.

 LL>  Likewise in reference to amendments, as none have been added dealing
 LL> with the issue of oaths of office.

None are required, as the issue of who will take the Oath was settled in
1789 and again in 1865...

 BF>> And, after all, they have a presidential (GWB) decree that it's
 BF>> nothing but a piece of paper after all.

 LL> Bill O'Reilly did *NOT* say that!  So it must *NOT* be true!

Neither did GW...

 LL> Besides, the original document is not a piece of paper.  Even
 LL> though Roy Witt might like to tell you otherwise.  ;)

Parchment is a type of paper...

 BF>> Please Lee, keep on informing us aliens, and disregard any
 BF>> obstructive insults from a few brainwashed countrymen of yours.
 BF>> The rest of us out here in Fidonet are fairly aware of what may
 BF>> be true and what not.

 LL> "I caught a fish T-H-I-S big!"  <holding arms wide apart>

 LL> Now go ahead.  Top that.  If you can.  :)

I caught a lewseeana sucker...he has very large lips, just like a
high yeller nigger.


    Tenga un gran dia!

         R\%/itt



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