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Skriven 2013-11-07 16:18:32 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 11167 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
Ärende: The Loser Is: AlGore                Was: US bashing?
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 Brer Lee Lofaso wrote to Brer Ward Dossche about US bashing?:

 LL>>> Until the War of Southern Independence (1861-1865) the USA had
 LL>>> multi-party elections, including for president.  Only after that
 LL>>> period of time did Democrats and Republicans conspire to bring
 LL>>> about a two-party system.  And even then, third-party candidates
 LL>>> sometimes screw things up by jumping in a presidential race.

Which you nearly deny in your next diatribe.

 LL>>> George C. Wallace was the last third-party candidate who upset
 LL>>> the apple cart by winning electoral votes which otherwise would
 LL>>> have gone to the Democratic or Republican candidate.  That was
 LL>>> in 1968.

Wallace did the same.

 WD>> You obviously forget the role of 3rd party candidates, even when
 WD>> not securing electoral votes.

 LL> The role of a candidate is to WIN.  Doesn't matter what office
 LL> a candidate is running for.  The role (and goal) is to WIN.

You're very niave on this subject.

 WD>> In 2000 Ralph Nader won 2.882.955 votes which in certain disputed
 WD>> states would've made tilt the outcome towards Al Gore.

 LL> Ralph Nader is a perennial candidate who has lost every election
 LL> he entered.

I thought the idea was to win?

 LL> How many states did he win?  Zero.

Irrelevant.

 LL> How many electoral votes did he win?  Zero.

Also irrelevant.

 LL>   Ralph Nader is, and has always been, a LOSER.

Also irrelevant.

 LL> There were no "disputed states" in the 2000 presidential election.

There were actually two disputed states in the 2k election. Florida and
Tennessee...

According to the official 2001 Statistics of the Presidential and
Congressional Election of November 7, 2000, George W. Bush beat Al Gore in
Florida by a mere 543 votes. It is noteworthy that every third-party
candidate received enough votes in Florida to have cost Al Gore the
election.

However. The Green Party Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader did not work
for the Florida Secretary of State, the Palm Beach County Election
Commission, the Al Gore campaign committee, or the United States Supreme
Court.

Yet, he has become a scapegoat among many Democrats for Al Gore's loss of
the 2000 election, and, beyond the election, the person to blame for the
resulting policies of George Bush.

The diehard Democrats are averse to looking at the failings of their
candidate, and they are not blaming voters for failing to vote at all.

Instead, they are upset that Ralph Nader did not acquiesce to dropping out
of the race as many urged him to do.

As a side note, if Al Gore had won his home state of Tennessee, he would
have had the necessary Electoral College votes to have won the election
and the Florida results would have been irrelevant.

The facts are compelling and undeniable that Ralph Nader is not the
reason, and should not be blamed, for George Bush's victory in the 2000
presidential election. That falls on the failings of the Dem party
candidate.


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