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Text 12227, 184 rader
Skriven 2014-01-29 11:25:00 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av DOSSCHE & KRACHT
Ärende: Women's `Choice' AKA Abor
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With apologies to the moderator. I wasn't going to respond to any of these
posts as I am in the land of the `banned' from this echo.


However, I cannot let the false accusations and unjustified characterizations
made by the two main characters of hatred (Dossche and Kracht) go unanswered.


First of all...lets take Dossche's unrealistic comments.



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Area: 168-FIDONEWS  Message Number: 17675  Date: 01-27-14
From: WARD DOSSCHE
To: TIM RICHARDSON
Subject: Re: Wendy Davis
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TR> As is common with democrats, she's a liar who inflated her bio, and
TR> neglected to mention she picked up on a rich guy to marry,...


There are certain republicans who come to mind.

* The firstone went live on national tv and said "I am not a crook..." ....
talk about a liar ... he resigned the Presidency in 1974

Loved watching that speech live.

* The second one married a terrific rich lady and ran his failed presidential
bid on ketchup.

TR> She's just another leftist democrat, ...

Amazing, I think American Democrats are rightist with Republicans even more to
the right.

You probably have no clue what "leftist" means.

So you're excommed from here? Good ... what "Roe vs. Wade" made dramatically
clear is that women had a right to a choice to become pregnant or not and
every
bigot such as yourself denying them that right should have his penis
surgically
removed with a dull knife and stuffed in his mouth.

Have a nice day.

*****************************************************************************


First of all....I am not a `republican'. And back in Nixon's time I was a
registered democrat. Jimmy Carter's presidency was a rude political awakening
for me. I could no longer be a democrat, I re-registered as republican.

When the Senate refused to convict Clinton of high crimes and misdemeanors as
a result of his lies and out-and-out purjury; republican Senators stepping out
of the Senate chamber and right up to a set of microphones and cameras, and
stating on nationally-broacast news, Clinton's obvious guilt, and then those
same senators voting to `acquit' him, I could not be a republican any longer,
either. I re-registered `Independent'. Not `American Independent' (there *is*
a huge difference), just `independent'.


My position today is in line with the idiology of the `Tea Party'.


As for `abortion' and `women's right to choose' you're so adamant I should
lose my cock over?


Lets be clear on something...


I have no problem with a woman having the right to `choose to become pregnant
or not', as you accuse me of wishing to deny them. A woman has the right to
decide whether or not she becomes pregnant. A woman ALSO has responsibility
for her behavior, the same as a man does.


Choice? If a woman engages in sexual activity and becomes pregnant because she
either did not insist on her sex partner either using a condom, or she herself
using a pregnancy preventive, PRIOR to having sex...she has ALREADY made her
`choice'.


The choice *you* are adamant she have the right to exercise, involves taking a
life. And that she does NOT have the right to do.


You can come up with all sorts of reasons (aka `excuses') for her becoming
pregnant in the first place. But there are two `bottom lines' here:


First of all...if a woman willingly engages in sexual relations and becomes
pregnant as a result, she has *already* made her `choice'. She chose NOT to
take precautions (or insist that her sex partner do so) to avoid a pregnancy.


Secondly...it has long been touted that one persons' rights' end where another
person's rights begin.


That is to say...your `right' to swing your fist at my face ends where my nose
begins. In other words...you can curse and shout at me all you wish, it is
your `right' to freely express yourself verbally. You may also assume a
physically-intimidating posture, and even swing your fist at my face so long
as your fist only flies through the air but does not actually make contact
with my nose. But your rights end where my nose begins; if you actually bounce
your fist off my nose you are no longer exercising your `rights', you have
committed an `assault'! A crime!


A woman has ALREADY made her choice when the sex act begins. She (or her sex
partner) has either taken precautions to prevent a pregnancy, or she hasn't
(or insisted her partner do so).


And her `right's end where the newly-concieved baby's right to life begins!


Do not bother to pull the `oh, its just an amoeba...or polyglot' response. We
all know (at least those over  the age of five or six) that the end result is
a human being!


Oh and, by the way, both `Roe' AND `Wade' want the Roe v Wade decision
reversed!


In the case of the plaintiff known as `Jane Roe', she want the Court to re-
consider because she now is thoroughly convinced that abortion actually
`hurts' women. She now claims that scientific as well as other evidence, over
a thirty year period, has shown that abortion has far more negative effects
than beneficial. Surprised?


Also, one of the grounds she asserted in favor of abortion was a claim to
having to been raped. At the time she made this assertion she was living in
Texas, and Texas law in those days allowed for a legal abortion in the case of
rape. She didn't get the abortion, but had the baby. The authorities didn't
believe her `rape' claim, and she later admitted it was false. Not only that,
although she signed papers making her a `plaintiff' in the Roe v Wade case,
she never attended one single court hearing or trial in the case! Not one!


Next...lets take the actual `what my position is' on the abortion issue:


Yes...I do believe there are good and proper reasons for a woman or girl to
have an abortion. No female should be made to have a baby that resulted from a
rape situation.


On the other hand, I am equally against abortion being used as a `birth
control' by a sexually active female who is either too lazy, or too out of
control of her own emotions and physical desires, to exercise the
responsibility to take preventive measures against an unwanted pregnancy `at
the source': when the sex act begins!


If a female isn't responsible enough, or in enough control of her sexual
drives to `choose' to have protected (against pregnancy) sex....what the hell
makes anyone think she's responsible enough to make a life-or-death choice for
a human child.


And you abortion-happy individuals out there...the bottom line is, we ALL of
us know that what you refer to as `polyglots' or `amoebas'...are in the end of
about 9 months *human babies*!


By the way...anyone notice how quickly the Kermit Gosnell case disappeared
from public mention? The Gosnell case, put along side the 55 or so MILLION
abortions since Roe v Wade, should be a appauling indictment of the whole
abortion issue. How quickly the Gosnell story got `black holed' by the media!



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