Text 12372, 79 rader
Skriven 2014-02-04 14:24:00 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 12371 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Message from the true moderator
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 Brer David Drummond wrote to Brer Roy Witt about Message from the true
moderator:

 DD> On 4/02/14 9:35 AM, Roy Witt -> David Drummond wrote:

 DD>>> His attempt was successful - he holds that role in the
 DD>>> international echo/e-zine.

 RW>> Wrong. Read P4.07, noting the FIDONEWS section, then take a look at
 RW>> the Z1 segment of the nodelist. Let me know when you get to the part
 RW>> about the F-editor being listed as 2:2/2...

 DD> Obviously that part of Policy is no longer relevant. Remember Policy
 DD> is a guideline, not 'The Law", cast in stone.

Actually, it still applies as needed. Because parts of it are ignored
these days doesn't mean that it has been reduced to a guideline. If the
'editorship' of the e-zine is to be considered addressed in Z2, then
policy needs to reflect that. Otherwise, policy reigns supreme in that
regard.

 DD>>> Your mileage may vary with the Z1 rendition.

 RW>> His attempt to remove certain individuals from this echo havn't been
 RW>> successful. A sign of a poor moderator to say the least.

 DD> Those who will not moderate themselves cannot be moderated by others.

Wrong...Lee Lofaso, your favorite moron, has been moderated out of the
echo by the Z1 moderator. He has been invited and chooses to post from
Felten's system now, knowing that he can't be touched by any Z1 moderator
without cooperation from Felten. He who sees Lofaso as an ally in his
quest for USA basher #1... Lee also knows that if he had a mind to, he
would never get himself nodelisted because he is banned in the region as
well.

 RW>>>>  He can't enforce his rules, so he's really not a
 RW>>>> moderator.

 DD>>> Welcome to the real world, nor can anyone else.

 RW>> You're mistaken there. I've seen (and so have you) the results of
 RW>> the moderator actually removing certain individuals from this echo.
 RW>> If you'll recall Wayne Churnside's adventures here, then you have
 RW>> seen the results of a moderator who can enfoce the rules, although
 RW>> limited in that vane to BBS users.

 DD> There-in lies the issue - a moderator "moderates" (or attempts to)
 DD> the content of the echo.  The only person who can really moderate the
 DD> message is the poster.

Not so. See above.

 DD> Moderator is not synonymous with executioner.

If we had a section of policy that made a moderator an executioner, we'd
have a lot of dead users and sysops, no longer able to use the echo.

 DD> The moderator role in modern Fidonet is just a clerical position much
 DD> like the *Cs.

Thanks to Ward and bunch of his cronies. That process only cost him the IC
seat in the long run, it didn't cost anything for the moderator he
opposed; who is still a pain in his backside for being such an asshole.


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