Text 12434, 84 rader
Skriven 2014-02-15 10:49:47 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
  Kommentar till text 12427 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: Re: The Danes
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RW>WD> What about the culling of 1,000 Buffalo in Yellowstone?
 
RW> Montana ranchers claim migrating bison infect their herds with
RW> brucellosis. Those buffalo that wonder off the National Park territory
RW> are subject to culling anyway. That's been going on for a long time.
 
That is what Montana ranchers have been saying for the 40+ years that I've been
there. Fact is there isn't a demonstrated case of migrating bison infecting
cattle.
 
The Montana ranchers also don't complain about the herds of elk roaming in and
out of Yellowstone. They are the primary carriers of brucelosis ...
 
RW> Hint:, the park service is looking for the million dollars it would
RW> take to vaccinate that herd of buffalo.
 
You and I know it'll take more than that plus the Park Service will never do
that anyway. Whenever there's an issue they'll let it continue as it's a
natural process. Same as the 1981 (?) fires in Yellowstone which burned a
substantial portion. As long as it doesn't go outside park boundaries, nothing
is done to it. When that fire went to burn "outside" of the park, then the
Forest Service acted to protect state forests and commercial interests. The
Yellowstone fire died when winter started and 8 feet of snow was dumped on it.
 
When we went there in 1982 it was total devastation, nature renewed itself and
30 years later you have a young, green, healthy forest. Pine beetles were
killed by the millions as well.
 
RW>WD> What about the killing of wolves in Montana, Idaho, Utah and North
RW>WD> Dakota?
 
RW> The European Union has exceptionally permitted Estonia, which has the
RW> highest wolf density in the EU, to continue wolf hunting as long as the
RW> overall numbers remain stable.
 
That may be so, but what about Montana, Idaho, Utah and North Dakota?
 
Outhere the last wolf was killed in te 1800's I think. Some years ago there was
a total hype for weeks because someone claimed a single animal had migrated all
the way from Italy here ... that'll be the day ...
 
RW>WD> What about Columbine and every school shooting after it?
 
RW> Overly strict gun laws and too many nut-cases roaming the streets, while
RW> the state laws allow them to have firearms.  The Columbine shooters were
RW> crazier than all of the rest, but there were others deemed crazy too,
RW> like the shooter in AZ, CO lately and the nut-job in CT.
 
I'm interested in the sociological behaviour patterns why such shootings occur
so often in the US and not anywhere else. Out here, whatever people claim, it
isn't that difficult either to get a fire-arm, yet such massive shootings don't
occur. Perhaps with the exceptions of Dunblane and Breivik, but in neither case
this was a student.
 
So I wonder, what goes on in the mind of such a kid. They're old enough to
understand it can only end one way.
 
Last Wednesday a 14yr old kid jumped under a train here in Belgium commiting
suicide. From material left behind it was determined he was bullied at school
and couldn't find a way out of his problems. For crying-out loud ... at 14yr
you don't even know what problems are when you've lived in a sheltered home
with a caring mam and dad.
 
RW> We're open to suggestions on how you test nut-jobs for self destructive
RW> behavior looking for a way out of this world; Execution by Cop seems
RW> easy enough to accomplish...but when it comes down to it, the nut-cases
RW> are more comforatable offing themselves...
 
As I said, I think it must be possible to explain it in a sociological context.
 
What's different? The information-society? Television? Easy-access to weaponry?
 
4 weeks ago in New York (Manhattan) we passed 3 high-schools. All had
bullet-proof reinforced windows, uniformed security-guards with visible
side-arm and students had to go through an airport-security style inspection
with scanner and everything...
 
It's unthinkable here ... so why is that necessary overthere to have kids safe
at school?
 
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