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Skriven 2012-07-27 22:42:39 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Someting different (was: dupes!)
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Hello Robert,

On Thursday July 26 2012 16:55, you wrote to me:

 MV>> The point is that some do not wish to work together, but wish to
 MV>> impose their will on others.

 RB> A second interpretation is that some want the same consideration
 RB> others expect of them.

That the NAB Troika seized the Fidonews is not an interpretation, it is a fact
of a minority imposing their will on the rest by force.

 RB> It's not "imposing your will" on anyone when you cut ties with them to
 RB> avoid constant abuse.

Merely cutting the ties is indeed not imposing your will. But if you replace
what was cut off by your own version, thereby forcing others to go along with
this change, then it is imposing your will on others.

 RB> And frankly, I get a bit tired of the weeping and wailing and gnashing
 RB> of teeth some people - I can think of several in Z2 and perhaps two in
 RB> Z2 - when they get as good as they give with regard to abuse.

It does not change the fact that the Z1 NAB forced their will on the rest of
the network. They used they standard excuses of those operating by right of
might. "It is for your own good", "it is for the best of all", "there was no
other way to solve the problem", etc, etc. It does not alter the fact that they
imposed their will on others by right of might.

 RB> You feel yourself a victim, as do Ward, Bjorn Torbjorn and Herman
 RB> (with David piping in occasionally to keep the pot boiling). But what
 RB> do those who are subjected to _your_ abuse supposed to feel?

They can use the next key...

 RB> Are they supposed to simply let it continue without end, without
 RB> trying to do anything to stop it?

They can use the next key.

 RB> Stop the anti-US digs and personal insults - and keep the rest of
 RB> those mentioned from starting things up again - and everything will
 RB> resolve itself just fine.

No, it will not. They imposed their will on us by right of might and that will
NOT go away by pretending nothing happened. If someone stole you car and he
showed no intention of giving ot back, would you be satisfied to just "let it
rest"?

Well I certainly won't. They stole the Fidonews. it will NOT resolve without
giving it back.

 RB> So relax and enjoy the air. There are plenty of things to talk about
 RB> other than how we hate one another.

NO. Not until what was stolen is returned. Until then you will be in a
guerrilla war. Do I have to tell you, one can not win a guerrilla war?

Sorry Bob, a great injustice was done by the NAB Troika and until this is put
right, there will be no detante.

Cheers, Michiel

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