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Skriven 2012-07-29 13:44:58 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Ward's Z1 node number
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Hello Robert,

On Sunday July 29 2012 08:31, you wrote to me:

 MV>> why is applying for a node number making a fool of oneself?

 RB> On a temporary visit that may last another few weeks?

So what? There is no minimum contract duration for a node number.

 RB> Now you really _are_ joking.

No, I am not.

 RB>  The more I consider Richard's assumption (Z1 node number
 RB> to be able to access Z1C), the more I become convinced that this may
 RB> really have been the reason for this farce.

An application for a node number is not a farce.

You know what? I am getting the idea that ward's application is denied for
/political/ reasons.

 MV>> There is no minimum time limit on a node number,

 RB> You would have been a great bureaucrat, Michiel. Never use common
 RB> sense, everything by the book.

Bureaucracy can be an effective defence against arbitrariness, bias and
discrimination.

It is getting more and more obvious that Ward's request is put on the back
burner because het is Ward and not some newbie that has never been heard of as
yet. Had a newbie in Montana with no Fideonet history applied for a node
number, Janis & co would have gone out of their way to help him get listed. He
would have appeared in this month Gazette under the header of "new nodes in the
making". With trumpets sounding.

But now that it is not a newbie without a history, but it is Ward, they go out
of their way to find an excuse to refuse...

The Troika is showing their true colours.

 RB>>> It's really hard to believe. But I'm glad you let the cat out of
 RB>>> the bag

 MV>> It was not me who "let the cat out of the bag". Janis did that.

 RB> When? I read nothing about it until you wrote.

Find a decent link that does not censor messages...

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Hello Michiel,

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#3) And aren't you now pushing him to get a Z1 node number by asking what's new
with getting one here in Z1 while he's in Montana?

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 RB>>> - I didn't know anything about this up to now.

 MV>> You mean Janis did NOT let you know? Oh oh...

 RB> You (and Ward) are under the (intentionally) mistaken assumption that
 RB> I am part and parcel of everything that has happened and continues to
 RB> happen in Z1.

No Bob we  do not think you are part and parcel of everything happening in Z1.
But you are siding up with them every time and as Ward already told you, you
are being used.

 RB> That is not the case. The only reason I was invited to participate in
 RB> Z1C (the invitation came out of a clear blue sky) was because I was
 RB> one of the few Z2 people who were not constantly trying to stir up
 RB> interzonal trouble, but trying to take a middle course.

That is what you think. The real reason is that because you always side with
Z1, they think you can be of use.

The minute they think you will be of no more use, you will be dropped like a
hot patato.

 RB>  Otherwise, I remain neutral,

Don't make me laugh. You are as neutral as the lawyer defending James Holmes.

 RB> I figure if Ward takes the lead in attempting to reach a reasonable
 RB> compromise, they will follow.

He tried that. It failed because they would NOT go for a reasonable compromise.
They wanted all and nothing but all.


Cheers, Michiel

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