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Skriven 2014-05-03 11:19:07 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 14773 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: NBA Scandal and 1st Amend
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Greetings TIM!

 JD>>>> Even many of the straight community will not condone such crap.

 RW>>> Don't bet on it.

 TR> Much of the ordinary community see some things as `hot-button' items
 TR> and try their best to avoid them.

Keep in mind that Joe is of the liberal persuasion and gets his news from
CNN.

 JD>> I would bet on it.  Just look at the present Basketball scandal

 TR> there's a good example of `perfect world' gone awry.

Liberalism.

 RW>> There is no scandal; there are people with realistic values and
 RW>> opinions and there are morons who cater to those who think what was
 RW>> said is racist. The latter would include all of the black players
 RW>> who had something nasty to say about the conversation, but nothing
 RW>> to say about the illegality of a recorded private conversation being
 RW>> made public. The NBA commisioner over-reacted to what was said so
 RW>> that the black players would feel there was something being done
 RW>> about it.

 TR> Here's the thing, and I mentioned this in another echo when this
 TR> controversy with Sterling first broke;

I remember it.

 TR> This whole situation sort of smells, to me. Here's a guy telling
 TR> someone he `thought' he could trust, something in what he `thought'
 TR> was a private conversation, which suddenly hits the news cycles!

IMO, he was giving that gal good advice. What has Madonna gotten out of
her flaunted relationship with a that crazy basketball player?

 RW>> It is now no secret that the owner of the LA Clippers said something
 RW>> to his ex-girlfriend in a private (he thought) conversation that she
 RW>> was recording. The fact that she recorded that conversation without
 RW>> both parties consent is illegal, especially in California where it
 RW>> took place.

 TR> Not only that...its funny that this whole thing became `what he
 TR> said'....and there's nothing about the legalities of what SHE did by
 TR> secretly recording him!

But the tide is turning, as more and more people begin to realize that she
railroaded him with her recording. Not because she thought it was racist,
but because she probably knew what it would do to his reputation, which
was foremost in her mind.

 RW>> The only scandal I see is that she recorded and then revealed a
 RW>> private conversation without the other person's consent, thus making
 RW>> her the guilty party.

 TR> The whole thing just doesn't feel right. Look how fast it all
 TR> happened; from the time of this private conversation, to the time
 TR> this NBA big-wig is out in front of a camera with Sterling's
 TR> life-time ban decision, and making noises about forcing him to sell
 TR> the team; what? A couple of days?

Yeup. Another railroad job.

 RW>> In Sterling's defense (not that I'm on his side in this), he has 1st
 RW>> amendment rights to say whatver is on his mind.

 TR> I'm not taking his part in this, either. But I do have to wonder how
 TR> he was smart enough to make the fortune he made, but isn't smart
 TR> enough to take steps to protect himself from situations like this.

Senility?

 RW>> That it was exposed to the public and the black community took it as
 RW>> a racial statement, doesn't make it a crime.

 TR> He didn't commit any crime. And I'd question this NBA bigwig's
 TR> authority to tell him he `can't be anywhere his own team is
 TR> practicing, or attend any of their games'. He's not been convicted of
 TR> anything in a court of law, only the `court of public opinion'. Don't
 TR> see how they can legally keep him from attending his own teams'
 TR> games. OR make him sell the team.

I agree...They may be able to take the franchise away, but they can't make
him sell the team or even keep him away from the team, if he wants to be
there. AFAIK, he owns the team name and may sue the NBA if they remove the
franchise and use the Clippers name. Wouldn't that be a hoot.

 TR> This all just came up on the screen and went into `over and done
 TR> with' mode far too quickly to not have something wrong with it. I
 TR> think if the `owner' had been a black guy, and we were talking about
 TR> him not wanting his `white' girl friend to be bringing `white guys'
 TR> to *his games*....this would have dragged out for a couple of years,
 TR> gone into `occasional mention' mode, and quietly gone away. No NBA
 TR> bigwig would have gotten involved. No lifetime ban even been
 TR> suggested by anyone. I can't help thinking the whole situation isn't
 TR> known to the public yet.

We'll see how far this goes...It has already cost the chief of the NAACP
to resign his post because he was going to give Sterling a 'lifetime
achievement' award when this came up.

    Have a day!

         R\%/itt - K5RXT

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