Text 17835, 116 rader
Skriven 2014-09-02 00:45:00 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 17832 av Joe Delahaye (44249.fidonews)
Ärende: Dealing With Bullies
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Hello Joe,

 JD>>> I asked you a specific question.

 LL>> And I gave you a specific answer.

 JD>>> You chose to answer it with an answer relating to something else.

 LL>> And what answer did you want me to give you?  If you want to get
 LL>> the answer you so desire, answer your own question in your own words.
 LL>> Any which way you want to.  But do not expect me (or anybody else)
 LL>> to give you the answer(s) you want or desire.

 JD> You are still running around the question.

Not at all, Joe.

 JD> I asked you if what Ross said was true.

That was not the question you asked -

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LL>"As far as Lee goes, the information is availale."
LL>- Janis Kracht, having a conniption fit, FN_SYSOP echo

JD>Then let me ask you straight out.  Is it true?

LL>Janis did indeed post those very words in the FN_SYSOP echo.

JD>That is not what I asked you.

LL>Do try to be more specific.

LL>You asked me a question.  I gave you an answer.  It may not
LL>have been the answer you wanted, or expected, but I did give
LL>you an answer.

JD>I asked you a specific question.  You chose to answer it with
JD>an answer relating to something else. ...

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The question you asked was in reference to a statement made by
Janis Kracht, not by anything Ross Cassell said, wrote, or did.

 JD> Probably stupid of me to ask, as you demonstrated with the Have you
stopped
 JD> beating your wife yet question.

I merely pointed out the logic fallacy made by you, Ross, and Janis.

 JD> A long epistle is not necessary.

In your case it was absolutely essential.

 LL>> It is a (semi) public forum, available for public viewing.  If
 LL>> you want private, try email or netmail.

 JD> It is not.  It is for nodelisted sysops only.

And free for me and others to comment on in this echo and elsewhere.

 JD>>> Crossposting items from a private echo,

 LL>> It is not a private echo.

 JD> But it is.

You wish.  :)

 JD> You are not a nodelisted sysop, so that is offlimits to you.

Since you are not God, I do not have to worship you.  And that
means I can do whatever the hell I want, along with everybody else
who chooses not to worship The Almighty Joe.  :)

 JD>>> is also not something that is considered acceptable.

 LL>> It is a public forum, the only limitation being who is allowed
 LL>> to post messages.  What is considered unacceptable is talking about
 LL>> people behind their back without giving them a chance to contest
 LL>> or defend themselves in that same forum.

 JD> I guess it is too much to ask the moderator, to actually moderate you for
 JD> doing the crosspostin, never mind that you somehow have read access.

Who sez I am crosspostin'?  The Almighty Joe might be shocked
to find out there ain't no crosspostin' going on (except in his
own little mind) ...

 LL>> Posting excerpts of what certain individuals have written about
 LL>> in that echo over here in this echo is quite appropriate, showing
 LL>> all of fidonet exactly why Ross Cassell and Janis Kracht are loathed
 LL>> and detested by so many sysops inside and outside of zone 1.

 JD> You seem to forget about yourself being detested by many in both zones.

I can count the number of "many" on the fingers of one hand, with
two of them being Ross Cassell and Janis Kracht.

 JD> You also forgot that you lost access in every Z1 system you ever posted
in.

That comes as a great shock to me.  When did that happen?
Oh yeah.  Frank Vest retired from fidonet.  As have quite
a few other fine folks, having moved on to other things.

 JD> There is a reason for that.

People get old?

--Lee

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