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Text 18384, 99 rader
Skriven 2014-09-17 20:46:35 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 18271 av Gregory J. Deyss (1:267/150)
Ärende: Power of Love
=====================
Hello Greg,

 LL>> I am deeply saddened by the words that our President,
 LL>> a recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, uttered the other
 LL>> night, again calling on the American people to go to war.

 GJD> There can be no peace until you eliminate one's ability to make war.

The "Peace Through Strength" philosophy has never worked at
any time in history.  It did not work in Germany, Japan, Korea,
Vietnam, or even Afghanistan and Iraq after the events of 9-11.
The only thing such pillage and destruction managed to accomplish
was to kill a bunch of people, including our own.

"If you want peace, work for justice." - Pope Paul VI (also
attributed to Pope John Paul II)

There is no such thing as a "just war" - as there is nothing
"just" about war.  The killing of innocents is horrible enough,
the killing of others in my name just as horrible if not even
more so.

 LL>> In response to President Obama's call to war concerning
 LL>> the terror group ISIN the only answer there can be is to
 LL>> do as the Good Doctor prescribes -

 GJD> We will hit them with air strikes and support the Iraqi military and the
 GJD> newly formed goverment. From what I heard we did not do so before because
 GJD> there was no goverment in place. Yeah right, sounds like a convenient
 GJD> excuse to me.

Politicians and military leaders make many "excuses" for
going to war - even though there are no real reasons for war.

War is nothing more than the exchange of human lives for real
estate.  Real estate can be many things, not just land.  As you
know, or should know, all wars are economic.  Somebody wants
to gain something at somebody else's expense.  Preferably at
or with little or no expense.

In the case of ISIN, the cost is minimal.  Having only a
small handful of fighters (the CIA estimates 31,500 at most)
this group of terrorists has virtually nothing to lose and
everything to gain.  What do they want?  To spark a worldwide
religious war between Muslims and infidels.  How best to do
that?  Get the Great Satan (the USA and its proxies) to attack
Muslims in Muslim homelands ...

 LL>> "Hate begets hate; violence begets violence; toughness
 LL>> begets a greater toughness.  We must meet the forces of
 LL>> hate with the power of love. Darkness cannot drive out
 LL>> darkness; only light can do that.

 GJD> So what do you suggest we do? Send in the powderpuff girls?

That would be a start.  Along with having everybody holding
hands while singing "Kumbaya".

 GJD> These are terrorists they do not want to talk.

They are more than willing to talk.  Osama bin Laden did.
Until we shut him up and made him food for the fishes.

 GJD> They kill anyone by any faith,

Only infidels, never [true] believers.

 GJD> they must be met with the full force of the U.S. Military and our
coalition
 GJD> partners.

And thus give them everything they want - more true believers
of the faith.  See how that works?  Chop off a few heads and gain
millions more true believers ...

 GJD> "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of perserving
 GJD> peace." - George Washington January 8, 1790

George Washington was a deserter.

We need more people like him today.

The Revolutionary War was not so much a revolution, but
rather a war to keep the status quo.  It was the most bloody
war in American history (per capita), and also fought on our
own soil.

In fact, we had to fight the British TWICE in order to have
our freedom.  Thank God for the pirate Jean Lafitte who saved
New Orleans and America ...

Okay, okay.  We gave General Andrew Jackson all the credit,
erecting a statue of him riding his horse in front of St. Louis
Cathedral in the French Quarter.

--Lee

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