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Skriven 2014-09-20 12:57:08 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 18486 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Dealing With Bullies
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Greetings David!

 DD>>> When was 4.1 released?

 JD>> Not.

 DD> Then whatever is says is not in force.

There never was a release of the contents of P4.1, if it ever existed.
Obviously, it cannot be in force.

 DD>>> Who was involved in the rewrite?

 JD>> I was one of those

 DD>>> Who was included in the vote for its inception?

All *Cs and *ECs.

 JD>> Again, I was one of those.

 DD> But.. the great unwashed were not invited to vote?

If the unwashed was a nodelisted *C at the time, yes, they were invited.

Version 4.06 was issued for approval by those who were elegible to vote.
Obviously, a non-*C wouldn't see the document unless their *C allowed it
to be hashed over in their net or region echoes.

 DD> Further evidence that Fidonet has no legal status as a club in
 DD> Australia.

Dunno about that, as each zone was issued a policy and asked to incorporte
it as their zone policy. If you didn't get to vote on it, then you either
weren't a *C, weren't around at the time or they didn't think you
important enough to vote on it. Just a guess.

Here's the pre-curser to P4.07...

                            FidoNet Policy Document           Version 4.06
                                 *** DRAFT ***                May 5, 1989


This policy document has been released for vote by the coordinator
structure (see section 8), and is not yet in force.

1  Overview

This document establishes the policy for sysops who are members of the
FidoNet organization of electronic bulletin board systems.  FidoNet is
defined by a NodeList issued weekly by the International Coordinator.

Separate policy documents may be issued at the zone, region, or net level
to
provide additional detail on local procedures.  Ordinarily, these
lower-level
policies may not contradict this policy.  However, with the approval of
the
International Coordinator, local policy can be used to implement
differences
required due to local conditions.  These local policies may not place
additional restrictions on members of FidoNet beyond those included in
this
document, other than enforcement of local mail periods.




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8  Referenda

The procedures described in this section are used to ratify a new version
of
FidoNet policy, which is the mechanism by which policy is changed.  This
procedure is also used to impeach a Zone Coordinator.


8.1  Initiation

A referendum on policy modification is invoked when a majority  of the
FidoNet Regional Coordinators inform the International Coordinator that
they
wish to consider a proposed new version of Policy.


8.2  Announcement and Results Notification

Proposed changes to Policy are distributed using the same structure which
is
used to distribute nodelist difference files and FidoNews.  Results and
announcements related to the referendum are distributed by the coordinator
structure as a part of the weekly nodelist difference file.  The Interna-
tional Coordinator provides copies to the editor of FidoNews for inclusion
there, although the official announcement and voting dates are tied to
nodelist distributions.

If it is adopted, the International Coordinator sets the effective date
for a
new policy through announcement in the weekly nodelist difference file.
The
effective date will be not more than one month after the close of
balloting.


8.3  Eligibility to Vote

Each member of the FidoNet coordinator structure at and above Network
Coordi-
nator is entitled to one vote.  (Hub coordinators do not vote.)  In the
case
of the position changing hands during the balloting process, either the
incumbent or the new coordinator may vote, but not both.  If a person
holds
more than one coordinator position, they still receive only one vote.

Network coordinators are expected to assess the opinions of the members of
their network, and to vote accordingly.  A formal election is not
necessary,
but the network coordinator must inform the net of the issues and solicit
input.  The network coordinator functions as the representative of the
rank
and file members of FidoNet.


8.4  Voting Mechanism

The actual voting mechanism, including whether the ballot is secret and
how
the ballots are to be collected, verified, and counted, is left to the
discretion of the International Coordinator.  Ideally, ballot collection
should be by some secure message system, conducted over FidoNet itself.

In order to provide a discussion period, the announcement of any ballot
must
be made at least two weeks before the date of voting commencement.  The
balloting period must be at least two weeks.


8.5  Voting on a whole Policy Document

Given that Policy is intertwined and self referencing, a relatively simple
change may require several alterations of the document.  In order to
simplify
the process, balloting is done on choices between whole documents, rather
than individual amendments.  In the simplest case, this means voting yea
or
nay to a new document.  If a number of alternatives are to be considered,
they must be presented as whole documents, from which one is chosen.


8.6  Decision of vote

A Policy amendment is considered in force if, at the end of the balloting
period, it has received a majority of the votes cast.  For example, if
there
were 350 eligible voters, 100 of which cast a vote, then at least 51
affirma-
tive votes would be required to declare the amendment in force.

In the case of multiple policy changes which are considered on the same
ballot, a version must receive more than 50% of the votes cast to be
consid-
ered ratified.  "Abstain" is a valid vote in this case, effectively being
a
vote for not changing the current policy as it simply increases the number
of
votes required to ratify the proposed change.
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The P4.06 document is worded basically the same as P4.07, with some
changes made in spelling and grammar.


    Have a day!

         R\%/itt - K5RXT


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