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Skriven 2012-08-05 13:45:47 av Roger Nelson (1:3828/7.0)
   Kommentar till text 1960 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: The fourth stage
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On Sun Aug-05-2012 14:53, Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555) wrote to Roger
Nelson:

 MvdV> On Saturday August 04 2012 17:53, you wrote to me:

[...]

 RN>>  just as I am in the echoes I moderate.

 MvdV>> That's your area. Your area, your rules. Here someone else sets
 MvdV>> the rules.

 RN> And doesn't follow them.  (-:[

 MvdV> That is for the moderator to judge. That's not you.

So, according to you, it is fine for a moderator to break his own rules?  That
seems dictatorial.

 RN> What good is my opinion if you don't understand it?

 MvdV> 1) What makes you think I do not understand your opinion?

You didn't.

 MvdV> 2 It is a good question, but why ask me? Do you really want me to
 MvdV> give an opinion on the value of your opinion in the case that I
 MvdV> do not understand it? 

You are confused, but I hope I didn't do that to you.

 RN> Not understanding my opinion is your problem because you don't
 RN> bother to ask for clarification.

 MvdV> No, it is not my problems. The world is full of opinions. The
 MvdV> world is also full of crackpots that hold opinions that make no
 MvdV> sense to me. I have LONG ago stopped trying to understand each
 MvdV> and every opinion that comes my way. I just move on.

So, you are the judge of who is a crackpot and who is not?  (-:

 RN>> and not opinion or illusion, is to be moderate in his moderating.

 MvdV>> As laid down where?

 RN> Common sense,

 MvdV> The word "common" in "common sense" indicates some kind of
 MvdV> commonality. 

Touché.  (-|

 RN> Yes, I'm often accused by my friends of that and you know what?  I am.
 RN> (-: I'm even better educated than they and was taught the difference
 RN> between right and wrong at an early age.

 MvdV> There is no absolute right or wrong. What you gave learned to be
 MvdV> wrong might be right for someone else. And vice versa.

That's a cop-out.

 MvdV> To hold the position that your POV of what is right and wrong, is
 MvdV> the only one possible and should be adopted by all, is arrogant,
 MvdV> patronising and counter productive when it comes to improve
 MvdV> relations.

Pitiful.

 MvdV>> If you feel sorry for me, you are not treating me as an equal.

 RN> I'm treating you EXACTLY the way your writings are construed not only
 RN> by me, but others as well.

 MvdV> You are not treating me as an equal.

Are you?

 RN>   You need to get over yourself.

 MvdV> Arrogant and patronising.

ROTFL!

 RN> [...]

 MvdV>>> And you never asked yourself if there might be a reason why
 MvdV>>> the US is so unpopular among so many people in the world?

 RN>> It's because of ingrates like you, Michiel.

 MvdV>> It is my fault that the US is so unpopulair among so manty
 MvdV>> people in the world? Get real!

 RN> I NEVER mentioned ANY country.

 MvdV> I did, thereby setting the context.

You did so because it isn't European.  There is no harm in wanting to raise
yourself to a new level, but one must take care in the way they go about it.

 RN>   Your hatred for the United States is showing again.

 MvdV> And you still refuse to ask yourself why it is that tha US is so
 MvdV> unpopular among so many people in the world.

Are you speaking for the entirety of the world sans the U.S.A.?  That's kind of
arrogant, isn't it?

 RN>   I'm beginning to think you, Ward and Björn are related.

 MvdV> But you still refuse to ask yourself why it is that tha US is so
 MvdV> unpopular among so many people in the owrld.

Is that a command?  I'm not good at following them because I'm used to giving
them.  You seem to be parroting that.

 RN>> A lot of good men gave their lives that afford you the luxury you
 RN>> now enjoy and you insult their memory.

 MvdV>> And there is that "you should be gratefull,,, bla bla bla
 MvdV>> mantra again.

 RN> See above.  If you misunderstood what I wrote,

 MvdV> I did not misunderstand. I can read bewteen the lines.

Are you clairvoyant and a psychic, too?

 RN>  it was commensurate
 RN> upon you as a learned person to ask me exactly what I meant,

 MvdV> If you do not want to be misunderstood, just say what you want to
 MvdV> say and say it clearly without me having to ask for
 MvdV> clearification every time. 

I do, but since you do not ask for clarification whenever I write something
that sails over your head, I am in the same boat as you because I'm not a
mindreader.

 MvdV> I am tired of playing your games.

What game is that?


Roger 
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